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Looking to put together a group buy for 458 Challenge Fuel cells.

Discussion in 'Challenge/GT Cars' started by windsock, Nov 17, 2017.

  1. windsock

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    We are looking at making a run of 458 Fuel cells for the Challenge cars. Our first run of 6 sold quicker then we anticipated. Looking for a run of 20-30 if we can find interest. Price will reflect the number put in the order.
     
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  3. Joeyung

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    Keep me posted. May be interested.
     
  4. windsock

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  5. jackb111

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    I am in the market for one as well
     
  6. windsock

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    Vitalcompetition.com or pm me. Will start production next week. Delivery three weeks out.
     
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  8. Paul Mitolo

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    Can anyone out there assist me with the acquisition of fuel cells for a 2012 458 challenge.
    Are the fuel cells for all various years of the 458 the same?
     
  9. windsock

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    Paul I am no longer with Vital competition but my new company is retaining the fuel cell distribution. We are making a run of 458 Challenge fuel cells. Yes all the years of 458 Challenge cars use the same cell.
    We also will be making a run of 360/430 cells. let me know how we can help. We also have a full supply of pumps, filters, gaskets and seals for the cells.
     
  10. ewright

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    How often do 458 fuel cells need to be replaced?
     
  11. tomgt

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    from ATL:

    “Most ATL racing cells are warranteed for 5 years, which is the legal life span established by most racing organizations.”

     
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  13. tomgt

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    Price for a fuel bladder for a Challenge car is about 3400 GBP

    when you buy x pieces you get a discount :)
     
  14. windsock

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    All FIA certified cell which is the industry standard are certified from 5 years from manufacture. Shelf life can become an issue for low volume cells.
    There is an option to get a FIA fuel cell re-certified for an additional 2 years. That re-certification must be done by the original fuel cell manufacturer and done prior to its expiration date in year five. Specifics on re-certification vary from each manufacturer.
     
  15. windsock

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    Which Challenge car are you getting fuel cell bladders for that price? I would buy all you can get at that price as that is less then a third of the cost in the US.
     
  16. tomgt

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    Supplier of motorsport fuel bladders for all major European manufacturers.
     
  17. windsock

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    That cell is $9300 plus shipping by the time you get it to the US. As ATL has a US distributor ATL UK will not sell direct. It is the reason we paired with a US manufacturer to make our own. We also had a rash of brand new cell failures in the 488 Challenge cars that were very unnerving.
     
  18. BabyFerrari

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    +1 for Windsock
    quality work!
     
  19. naparsei

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    I wish I’d seen this. I bought new from Michelotto.
     
  20. CarbonDan

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    Hi Windsock,

    I'm just now digging into the heavy research and planning phase of purchasing a 458 challenge Evo, exclusively for non-competitive trackday use.
    For trackday use, what kind of lifespan should one expect out of these fuel bladders?
    Does the fuel simply erode the bladder over time to the point that dangerous leaks become a possibility? Is the 5 year lifespan the result of overzelous insurance requirements or do you find it to be a good idea even for trackday use?
    Let me know what your units cost, would be interested in factoring that into my calculation.

    I am local to you by the way, hope to see you at the Ridge some time!
     
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    Please quote me a 488 Challenge fuel cell and estimated time of delivery. I still have about 18 months but just curious on cost and time frame.
     
  23. Alamo Gear Head

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    I'm looking for replacement fuel cells for the 458. Please let me know if you all are still manufacturing them. Running two cars, so might need two.
    Thanks,
     
  24. hezgon

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    I'm too am looking for replacement fuel cells for the 458c. Please let me know if you all are still manufacturing them. Foam failed and bladders, pump, filters all have to be replaced.

    Thanks,
    Stan
     
  25. windsock

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    Currently offering cells manufactured here in US complete bladder, foam and gaskets for $10,250 plus shipping in US. Pump kits including pumps, plumbing pressure regulators and lids are $3369 plus shipping. ETA on bladders is roughly 30 days from order. Pumps kits have been problematic and running between 30-90 days.

    Factory bladders $14,650 delivered in US with no ETA from time of order. Anticipate as long as 180 days but manufacturer will not make a commitment until they get a number of orders.
    Be careful to have anyone offering factory cells to confirm the production date on the cells you are purchasing. There are cells out there that are already 2-3 years old on shelf with a recertification done to get them back to five years..
     

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