LMP1 beats 2017 F1 lap record: Spa

The correct title should be KIT CAR based on LMP1 beats F1 car.

Lets not forget most of the F1 records were set way back in 2005 on grooved tyres. That no restrictions car is as fast as F1 was 13 years ago. Impressive.

 

If only there was a racing series where unrestricted cars could run. Call it, oh, I don't know, Can Am or something.

 

How about we compare apples to giraffes ... Let's see, here we have a car eligible to run in its series (F1) compared to a completely unrestricted car that hasn't been examined by any sanctioning body in over 1 year. What we need to see is an unrestricted F1 car going against the unrestricted Porsche at the same track on the same day or, alternatively, the Porsche vs an F1 car and with each approved by their respective sanctioning bodies for the year(s) they were eligible.

 

Depends on how long tires would last before being blown apart.

 

They had that once, some team from Germany came in, outspent everyone, and everyone else left
and the series soon disappeared.
I wonder who that was........????? hmm.......

Oh, they tried to save it, put lots of new rules in to limit power, but it was too late by then..

 

I really like the differences in the look, the wing, not having the holes over the wheel.

Very very cool of Porsche to do an unnecessary thing like this.

This is why we love cars.

 

I just watched some video of it going around Spa.

The sound, wow, it is great! It is amazing what removing the restriction does for the audible track!

Then the tire smoke into Ea Rouge, impressive.

Absolutely amazing, way cool.

Good job Porsche!

 

Ya think? Very observant of you. Couldn't be G. Pepper wuz bein' sarcastic, eh?

 

And the same hierarchy banned a wonderful machine from Jim, on a much lower budget. So what's your point? Tech scare you?

" The fans draw air from the bottom of the car and send it—along with dust, debris, oil sprays, and the occasional grass clippings—to the back, presumably into the faces of other drivers. These drivers inevitably raised a stink to Hall about it: we can't see when you're in front, we're getting sprayed with all of this debris. "Well," said the taciturn Hall, "why don't you pass me then?" "



https://www.roadandtrack.com/motorsports/a32350/jim-hall-chaparral-2j-history/

 

6:11.13 is the time to beat

https://www.roadandtrack.com/car-culture/classic-cars/news/a32791/nurburgring-record-stefan-belof-porsche-956/

 

^^I shuddered!

 

Porsche should leave the 956's record alone as that was an actual car used in sanctioned racing (quali for 1000km) and not modified for records. I rather they should do quick runs in different sectors over separate laps to get a hypothetical rather than an actual lap...

 

They look awesome, and the pics are so good they almost look like a scene from a 4K video game....... amazing to see.

 

Agreed. Only pro'lem is it's a little late now. The damage is done (or are you talkin' The Ring?).

Nonetheless, the record still stands for a race legal car, so, actually, it does'na' really matter.

 

On monday Porsche did some set-up runs with the 919 Evo on the Nordschleife, preparing themselves for a serious time trial, which is planned later (this month)...

If so and everything (car, driver, track and weather) comes together, they have the potential to go sub 5 minutes according to the very informative video linked below.

However, Timo Bernhard already stated on "Motorsport-Total-com", that just those set-up runs were physically and mentally enormously demanding for him!

 

That would be pretty crazy. BMW estimated their F1.06 (V8) would lap at 5:15.

 

Maybe a new formula for F1 is needed. There has to be an antidote to the loss of interest that is currently happening. Higher speeds, more noise ,back to the real heros of the 60s. Yes there was a downside,but that's why they were heros.

 

I've voiced (stated) my opinion before but here it is again. If you haven't noticed, it's happening to all the venues. I believe the love affair with the automobile, especially competition, is fading.
Sure there's still some, but that's why I say fading.
Us old timers are dwindling. I still have passion for the sport but I don't attend nearly as many as I used to and I don't feel so bad if I only watch part or even miss the whole dang thing anymore.
I don't think those coming up behind are as interested in the auto period. Changes ain't gonna cause the eyeballs to see if the minds behind them don't give a hoot in the first place.
Just my thought on the sitiation. 'Wish it weren't so but......

 

Great video thanks for the link, I have a Nordschlefie lap record summer 1985 7.30...yep.....hours on foot in the bushes along the track thee is no footpath for much of the lap the green hell as they say

 

These lap records should come as absolutely no surprise given Porsche has taken off any
restrictions put on the cars by ACO/FIA rules.

Already, the hybrid LMP-1 cars are marvels. Watching their performance at Le Mans the on board
and low angle cameras reveal just how agile the cars are and how quickly they negotiate the turns
and how effortless it all appears, but we know better.

Remembering back to a couple of years ago, our discussion leading up to Le Mans was how the
new generation hybrid P-1 cars could potentially shatter the top speed record on the Mulsanne
Straight. But, that never materialized in favor of the incredible cornering speeds these cars
achieve.

What stood out to me last year were the helicopter shots of the cars however. From the air, it
was plain to see how incredibly fast these cars accelerate out of the turns and when the electric
motors kick in, they take off like rockets. It must be a helluva sensation behind the wheel.

These cars with no restrictions must feel like being in control of a ballistic missile.

Fun to watch.

BHW

 

No wonder lmp1 folded. They let them spend millions on making jewels that can go this fast and then restricted the hell out of them. What the point?

 

The same old story in sports car racing, they have to try to keep things equitable between the
teams. If one team is suspected of having an advantage, the others scream, on and on it goes.

BHW

 

The point is you're mistaken.
"They" didn't let them build anything but what fit "they're" rules....parameters if you will. Just as automakers build production cars to a certain set of parameters. Porsche merely, and rightfully, modified what it started with for more performance just to go after these records, just as anyone does with a car they want more performance from. I haven't heard (or seen) Porsche claim this should be a race legal car record, just an outright record for the circuits that they decide to run it on.
The classes change often because the manufacturers decide when they feel they are not receiving enough ROI (return on investment), pull out, and the cycle starts again. 'Nothing new.