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LED Turn Signal Bulbs Resistor

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  1. English Rebel

    English Rebel Formula 3

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    I converted my tail and brake lights to LED and have received the ones for the turn signals. I know I need to add a resistor across the + and - leads to each bulb to stop the lights from flashing too quickly but I cannot find any information on FChat as to what size to use.
    Can someone who has done this please help
    Thanks
    Alan
     
  2. rbellezza

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    Ohm law, that's all you need ...
    The old bulbs were 20W which means they needed about 1.6A to properly work at 12V.
    Power= Voltage x Current
    To get the right blinking timing you need to simulate 1.6A, so, find out what's the LED's current and then add the current circulating thru the resistor ... for example, if the LED's use 0.6A you will need a resistor of 12 Ohms to make up for 1A.
    Resistance = Voltage x Current
    It's very important you also calculate the power of the resistor which in this specific example would be at least 12W. Use always higher power so at least 15W.
    Hope this helps.
     
  3. netman

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    You can purchase a replacement flasher made specifically for use with LED bulbs to mitigate the hyper flashing. This is the easiest way to go. And the best benefit is the lack of need to cut into the wiring harness.

    The hardest part is getting to the 4mm bolt head that holds the flasher relay in place.
     
  4. rbellezza

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    Even better ... and easier !
     
  5. English Rebel

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    I think I'm going the flasher route. Only the rear lights are LED all the others -- front and sides are regular incandescent. Will the new flasher care if there are mixed types in the system. Also are the new flasher relay pins all the same so they fit the base?
    Thanks
    Alan
     
  6. rbellezza

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    Mmmm i doubt, the OEM flasher take in consideration all the bulbs currents total. If your plan is to keep the OEM bulbs on the rest of the car, replacing the OEM flasher with one for LED's might not work ... someone please chime in.
     
  7. 308mash

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    my son did this on his vette (just the rear lamps) and I recall he used individual resistors across each bulb that were 6 ohm and 50W rating. There's a place on line that sells all this stuff for auto led's.
     
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  9. English Rebel

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    So that is a direct replacement for the OEM Ferrari one? I don't really want to go cutting into the harness if a simple replacement flasher will do the trick.
    Thanks
    Alan
     
  10. netman

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    Please contact Stef at Scud Ing Swiss | Home Page | ScudIng.com. He makes a flasher that for sure works with a combination of LED bulbs and OEM filament bulbs. The flasher is part of the kits he is offering. He may be willing to sell the flasher separately.
     
  11. Falcon Wing

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    Is there a reason to NOT have it flash fast?
    MY brother's Elise had a malfunctioning rear blinker that did this (apparently a common problem for the Elise) and it REALLY caught my attention on a cruise we took.
    I have fast modulator on my motorcycle rear brake spoiler and it really seems to wake people up.
     
  12. English Rebel

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    Thanks I'll contact him.
    Alan
     
  13. netman

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    Fast flashing could be a personal preference in a 3 pedal car. In a car with the F1 transmission the brake and 3rd brake light resistance or current draw is used to sense state of braking as well as the state of the engine cover.
     
  14. whatheheck

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    #14 whatheheck, Feb 8, 2014
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    Hi Alan, what type of LED bulb did you buy for your tail light and brake light?

    If you decide to do load resistor wise - these load resistors should work.

    A Pair of LED Turn Signal Blinker Bulb Load Resistors 50W 6ohm 7440 7443 T20 992 | eBay

    A replacement flasher designed for LED bulbs is actually a better way to go.

    Does anyone know where the flasher relay is located?

    Dan

     
  15. netman

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    The flasher relay on my LHD US car is under the dash on the passengers side below the glove box and close to the passenger side door. Held in place with a 4mm bolt.
     
  16. whatheheck

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    Thanks for the info.

    Is it hard to get to?

    Dan

     
  17. English Rebel

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    I just got an email from the member in Switzerland who makes the LED kits and apparently the 360 relay is a 7 pin so the ones that others have suggested (3 pin) will not work. He had a special relay made for his kit that will allow LEDs and regular bulbs to operate together without rapid flashing. It's quite expensive (although less than the OEM) but will avoid cutting the wiring.
    Alan
     
  18. whatheheck

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    Thanks for the follow up info.

    As mentioned, an alternate solution is the load resistor but I hate those load resistors as they get hot, they need to be mounted to a hard surface so they wont flop around while driving.....

    Dan

     
  19. KILOCHARLIE

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    Has anyone got any pics or video of their light conversions? Also is this expensive to do?
     
  20. English Rebel

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    I think you can get the type of resistors with heat sinks.
    Alan
     
  21. netman

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    Have a look at the other fcar site. There are pictures of my 360 with the LED brake lights and 3rd brake light.
     
  22. whatheheck

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    Thanks Alan.

     
  23. whatheheck

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    Will do.

    Thanks.

    Dan

     
  24. whatheheck

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    Sharp looking car you have!

    And thanks for the great info about LED tail light options.

    Dan

     
  25. bmw tuning

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    did anyone find the correct flasher for adding front led turns?
     

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