This entire forum is mainly discussion based upon opinion or personal experience so I'm really not sure what "facts" you are trying to draw upon or hold up as being worth as any more than others opinions or personal experiences here. Insofar as someone getting banned that isn't new either really. I'm unaware of the circumstances surrounding the members ban and therefore wonder the relevance given there is clearly some emotion from some with orders in who appear emotionally charged from not receiving unanimous affirmation of their decision. As I said earlier it should not matter what others say if you are completely comfortable with a decision. Evidently there appears to be a discomfort of sorts. That is why I thought drawing upon the ban of another who hasn't even been involved in the thread was an attempt to clutch at straw as a means to gain some sort of lost traction against whatever the counter argument was against those who had expressed a differing opinion. So you confirmed numbers from a dealer. One dealer from the whole planet who may happen to be just telling you what you want or need to hear. That's hardly a fact. And then likeylukey saying mules are still running around? Sounds like it's still a work in progress as well. Maybe those crash barriers keep jumping out in front of the car and they need to figure out why.