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  1. F40 LeMans

    F40 LeMans Formula Junior

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    Yes he is. I think he own the quickest car of the forum. :)
     
  2. turbo-joe

    turbo-joe F1 Veteran

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    yes, narrow body and 1000 hp

    but not reliable gearbox ( but already fixed well ), bad ignition and injection
    that is why I put on a map controlled ignition/injection system
    last week the engine was running first time, but it needs a lot of adjustment before I could go on the street

    and I want to go next year to nardo or to papenburg to go with this car more than 400 km/h - only a dream??? :) :)
     
  3. F40 LeMans

    F40 LeMans Formula Junior

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    turbo-joe,

    you need to absolutely Vboxed your car.... I posted some performance data of you car time ago, the link was on the Koenig site, I'm interested to know if these data are repeatable.
     
  4. supermafy

    supermafy Formula Junior

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    OK, I already love you :D
    any chance to see some dyno and/r vbox?!?!?
    ..if you'll go to nardò, please make a step in Rome, I'll offer you a beer
     
  5. F40 LeMans

    F40 LeMans Formula Junior

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    Performance/power:
    - 1.000 hp @ 7100 rpm
    - 1.150 NM @ 5250 rpm
    - 0-100 km/h 3,5 sec
    - 0-200 km/h 8.9 sec
    - 0-300 km/h 16,0 sec
    - Topspeed upto 370 km/h
    depending on gear ratio
    - power weight 1,59 kg

    Koenig-Specials - Showroom

    Turbo joe,

    Acceleration from 0 to 300 kph in 16 seconds. Do you think these performance are right?
     
  6. turbo-joe

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    the about 9 sec to 200 may be right. to 300 I never tested but I think less than 20 sec.
    top speed I was driving here on the autobahn has been 352, then the rpm limiter was working

    I never tested and I will never test acceleration with this car from standing. too much stress to all the parts and a waste of material and money. but often it happened that on the autobahn here with the road is asphalt covering that during acceleration in the right range of the turbo power the rear wheels are spinning at a speed of 200 km/h. if the road is concrete this spinning happens only up to about 150 km/h. sure, always dry road :)

    but fuel consumption: :( :( :( less than 3 mpg if hard driving ( so up to 90 ltr on 100 km ) but I also can go with 15 mpg ( about 15 ltr/100 km ), but this only without turbopower and increased idle. but that makes no fun then. :) :)
     
  7. supermafy

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    thanks for infos :D
     
  8. supermafy

    supermafy Formula Junior

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    Question about tyres: rear 295mm seem a bit smalll, or not?
     
  9. Melvok

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    #184 Melvok, Jun 18, 2014
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  10. Newman

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    Pretty impressive numbers considering the LaFerrari at almost 1000lbs less with 950HP and 30 years of technological innovation on its side has very similar performance numbers? Call me a skeptic.
     
  11. turbo-joe

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    mel, thank you for the new name you gave me :) but I prefer my older one. in my age it is hard to adapt to innovations
    do you have pictures from the engine? then may be I could tell you if yes or no, but I don´t think that koenig ever used a M-modell, but not sure

    paul, those numbers I also doubt a little, but the 200 km/h time with 9 sec. could be really ok and also the top speed even it may go faster with the right gear ratio. the 300 km/h I think those 16 sec are a little too utopian, but under 20 sec I´m sure it will go with a short ratio, so this what I just have with top speed from 352 km/h
     
  12. Melvok

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    Ha ha sorry Romano, slip of the pen ..... :D

    No more pics, I think it is a fake too ... I have never seen "M" versions of the Koenig ...
     
  13. Todd308TR

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    Is Koenig still in business? If they were back then could they have done a custom job?
     
  14. turbo-joe

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    yes, but not with complete conversions. but I´m sure if you ask and have the money they will do what you like.
     
  15. turbo-joe

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    as I have written here in this thread just now I put on a map controlled igntion/injection system. the sytem is working now but it needs a lot of "fine tuning" and that takes time.

    now a question to the absolute specialists here:
    what max. rpm a TR engine would go for longer time ( so may be 15 minutes at highest rpm?
    someone has experience?
    the max. rpm from factory is 6.800, then the limiter works. but I think this engine could make without problems 7500 rpm?
    the max rpm for a 365 bb was 7.700 and so I think the 6.800 will be not the limit for daily driving
     
  16. turbo-joe

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    no one has an idea about the max. rpm ? :( :( :(
     
  17. 88Testarossa

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    Turbo-Joe
    Thank you, and others, for posting to this thread. Very interesting. I envy your project car and "hobby."

    Thanks again :))
     
  18. MM355

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    I tried calling no response, email and no response.

    I have a 928 Koenig Specials and I wanted to get reproduction decals for the exterior.
     
  19. turbo-joe

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    please send a PM what you need exactly and I will try
     
  20. BlueBiturbo

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    #195 BlueBiturbo, Mar 25, 2015
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    Hi Romano,

    Any more upgrades on the car now? How is all the upgraded parts doing? The straight-cut gears are not too loud for You?
    Did You find the time to Dyno test the car yet?

    Cheers,
    Taffy
     
  21. turbo-joe

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    taffy,
    I just came back from vacation in thailand and until now had no time to go on with the car.

    problem just now I have:
    between 3100 and 3200 rpm I have missfiring. on the scope I see strange signals from the rpm sensor. below 3100 and above 3200 it is fine. but also I only have driven the car with a boost of 0,5 bar. but above 3500 rpm it is still a rocket. sure, the noise of the straight-cut gears are clearly heard, but the exhaust is louder :) :)

    I have to test and try an other rpm sensor. the trijekt I put in ( double trijekt ) is so sensitive that I think the self-oscillation of the crankshaft is the reason for this strange signal. it seems like a double signal on the scope. so I try a sensor with other ohm now. but just now no time :(

    I will let you all know when an dhow it will go on.
     
  22. Melvok

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    Good Luck !
     
  23. 1974gt4

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    I have a Konenig rear wing, 1985 TR for sale, very pretty…incase any body '''needs''' one

    :)
     
  24. BlueBiturbo

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    I have seen a couple of V12s with DUAL standalone ECUs (motec, haltech, etc).
    I only use one for my LM, but then again mine is a standard V12 (no turbos) but I have 12 EGT sensors, all the channels are enough.
    http://www.haltech.com/haltech-goes-exotic/

    What is the advantage of using two ECUs ?

    Cheers,
    Taffy
     
  25. turbo-joe

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    the trijekt ECU has only 12 outputs, not 24, and I want to have a totally sequential ignition and injection. so I have 1 ECU for the left side and 1 for the right side
     

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