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K&N Air Filter/ good are bad for ferrari?

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  1. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
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    Hi!
    a have Q
    K&N Air Filter - good are bad for ferrari?
     
  2. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

    Apr 26, 2014
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    I have heard bad but I don't know.
     
  3. RedTaxi

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    I have used K&N for many years without incident on many of my high performance cars. But I get my dealer to sort the paper filters on my Ferrari. Don't ask me why.
     
  4. Temuri

    Temuri Karting

    Apr 12, 2011
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    Every time I used it, I always had problems with air mass sensors.
    Also , it depends on environmental conditions of the location you're using your car.
    I don't use these filters anymore. It is my personal opinion based on a conditions I use my car.
    I think these filters can be used during track days, but not on a public roads , where the pollution of the air is much higher.
    Again, all is based on a personal experience.
     
  5. ferraristyle1

    ferraristyle1 Formula Junior

    Aug 2, 2013
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    Search function. This basic question was just asked like 3 days ago.
     
  6. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
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    im using on my all tuned onli Apexi air filter
    but it dry filters

    is the K&N filter dry?
     
  7. MotoMeccanica

    MotoMeccanica Formula Junior
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    Aug 21, 2006
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    They are fine, the problem is that when people clean them and re-oil them, they put on to much oil. That excess oil comes off and messes with your mass air fow sensors.

    I work in the parts end of a dealer, and sell many many MAF sensors due to this. I have them on my 2 of my vehicles (after much debate with myself initially) and have had no issue's.

    Scott
     
  8. rardoin

    rardoin Karting

    Feb 11, 2014
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    I can attest that K&N filters will pass fine particles that will be collected by a pleated paper filter as noted by contamination found on the intake duct post filter. I have run them on various race cars/karts on road courses where I regularly rebuilt engines and the HP gain was worth the increase cost of engine parts/labor. On the street I find no point in reducing time before overhaul for a minuscule gain in horsepower....it isn't a race. JMHO...YMMV
     
  9. Deiger

    Deiger Formula Junior

    Jul 4, 2011
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    I have been using K&N on all my cars since 2002 with no problems (S2000, Corvette, Accord, my 360, etc.). However, what this gentleman says is 100% accurate. Even K&N will tell you this. When cleaning the filters, don't soak them with soap and water. Use their cleaning kit and follow it exactly. Sometimes a good cleaning involves just some compressed air. When oiling use a light dusting. Those cleaning kits should last a long time. Also, allow a sufficient amount of drying time after each cleaning step. If you do use water or the oil, leave the filter out of the car for a few hours. Don't oil it and throw it right back in and then drive the car.

    With my S2000, a number of people commented having to buy a new MAF sensor. When we checked their filters they were literally dripping of oil. They thought more oil, more dust/dirt capture.

    NOT TRUE!

    Deiger
     
  10. Tim1137

    Tim1137 Formula Junior

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    Did those S2000 people fail to realize that S2000's dont have MAF sensors? lol
     
  11. Deiger

    Deiger Formula Junior

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    Sorry, MAP sensor. Sold that car 8 years ago, I loved it!

    Deiger
     
  12. Mozella

    Mozella Formula Junior

    Mar 24, 2013
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    I use K&N filters on my 360 Modena with good results. Of course, I've been using K&N for many many years and I know not to over oil them.
     
  13. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
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    anyone can say me
    is the K&N filter dry?
     
  14. OUMick

    OUMick Formula 3

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    no it's oiled
     
  15. captglen

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  16. GWARREND

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    Was worried you were going to position the "red dragon" and someone would go streakin'

    I have used K&N for years and never had a problem when oiled correctly.
     
  17. Tim1137

    Tim1137 Formula Junior

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    CaptGlen are you affiliated with greenFilter at all?
     
  18. cm2

    cm2 Formula 3

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    Thought there were other brands that had more layers and less dependency on the oil... Like BMC, but that is just from memory.
     
  19. Need4Spd

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  20. 360Spider_Russia

    May 27, 2014
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    you filter also oiled
    [ame=http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d7rETWxgZ8U]Green Filter USA - Filter Cleaning Demonstration - YouTube[/ame]
     
  21. captglen

    captglen Formula 3
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    Yes, They make the filters for me and I own the mold
     
  22. KILOCHARLIE

    KILOCHARLIE Formula Junior

    Oct 14, 2012
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    I'm very careful in not over oiling my k&n's and never had any issue. I clean my maf's with electrical cleaner too just in case. Main difference is the noise imo. Intake sounds rougher almost like one of those clackers you used to put on bicycle wheels when it starts sucking at 3-4k rpm. Some like it some don't. Only hear this with the left window open. Would love to hear comparisons between brands such as bmc/greenfilter/stock.
     
  23. captglen

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  24. f355spider

    f355spider F1 World Champ
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    These may very well be the best filters ever made, but the light transmission "test" I have to call BS on. There could be two identical filter medias, one made from white colored media, the other from black or dark blue...of course the white will transmit or allow more light to pass....that is meaningless test. I would want to see actual air flow metering tests...that is a truly meaningful and relevant test method.
     
  25. Kevin Rev'n

    Kevin Rev'n Two Time F1 World Champ
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    Ha ha, I couldn't think of a "nice" way to put this so I let it go. I would like to suggest that Capt G consider that a new "proof" concept for the value proposition.
    On the plus side of things...
    I think we can use these filters to finally answer the age old question of whether light is a particle or a wave. With these filters we can demonstrate clearly that light is "definitely" a wave because if it were a particle it would clog the filter and look like the darker one! :)
     

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