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" Japanese Vintage Ferrari Episode "

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  1. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #1 GT (giapponese-tifosi), May 11, 2015
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    Nice to meet you!
    I am a Japanese rookie that had put last month to Ferrari Chat.
    I like the old days of Ferrari, But it is not yet remember the English, it is impossible to participate in the Discussion for that.
    Therefore, I will introduce the "Japanese vintage Ferrari episode".
    Is it good in this forum? If I have different corner to introduce, please forgive me.  * Please enjoy this as a "Column".*

    ** Japan's first Ferrari new car is "275GTB".  (1965. early summer) **
    Suddenly, "Alloy body, 6Carb-Stage I tuning model." has been Imported!!!

    * 275GTB, reputation of style is good popular model.  In my test drive, 275 (2cam) Engine, felt better than (4cam).

    regards,
    Kamegorou.
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  2. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    By the way, Ferrari's First landing in Japan is "Superamerica". (Owner, GI)
    First Japanese Owner Ferrari was, "250GT PF-Cabriolet ".
     
  3. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #3 GT (giapponese-tifosi), May 12, 2015
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    Hello!
    The Countryside where I live is a strange place.
    Whopping, live a man who owns the "275GTB" for 43 years!
    Besides, next to the city, Japan's First "365 GTB/4 DAYTONA" there is.
    This 365 is the Mystery car. eary plexiglass nose & "All-alloy body of Stradale"!
    (Not a Competizione.)  Those who know this 「Alloy Daytona 」would be Rare.
    Steering wheel of this Daytona is also rare. This is a small-diameter black-spoke. 
    Certainly it is that of a Genuine Option.  However, I never in other Daytona saw this.
    *Regione Emilia-Romagna to like Japan plains, The city I live is also similar to Modena.*

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
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    Very interesting posting. Do you know the chassis numbers of the 275 and the 365 GTB/4? Thank you.
     
  5. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Message Thank you!
    *Say to the first. Sorry, Because I have a blank, Can not guarantee the accurate information at this time.
    The two chassis numbers, I do not know.
    *In that era is still the Ferrari world, Was not mature enough talk of the chassis number.
    *Those who still can be called "Historian" at that time did not exist.

    P.S.
    I was confirmed is the "eary plexiglass nose" that was in Japan.
    #12925 (P.F. Speciale), #13301, #13465, #13915 (Rhd).

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  6. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Daytona, which is a popular model, there may be that it is not yet known.
    For example... The number of ”silver paint nose model” ?
    Also, I have changed the headlights after the shipment factory, think there are some cases. (This can lead to confusion!)
    Kamegorou.
     
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    Many thanks for your contribution.
     
  8. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Hello!
    In Japan, between the owner of 275/2cam and 4cam, powerful rival relationship ...???   Personally, I have 2cam of the torque tube, think the best.
    Unfortunately Daytona, in Japan it will not be able to exert its good side ...
    Than anything, it is not suitable for petite Japanese.  (And I was not able to get used to the combination of the transaxle and Rhd.)
    Rather taste of "365GTC4" was suitable for me.
    ** Daytona of the Best when viewed in the United States!!  But, it does not suit the Japanese landscape... **
    GT. Kamegorou.
     
  9. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #9 GT (giapponese-tifosi), May 17, 2015
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    Hello, Enthusiasts!
    I will introduce a rare specification of Lusso in Japan.
    This is the cockpit of the "Steering Lock specifications" of factory original. (German specification Only)
    Ignition key is also located on the bottom of the steering wheel.   ** I want to see the Real thing!! **

    P.S.
    Individual imports Ferrari in Japan, mainly will come through Germany. Along with the Mercedes and BMW.  
    It is Japanese, because we love the German car, are buying so many cars of Germany.
    But, Vintage is another.  Germany specification is very rare.

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
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    #10 275gtb6c, May 17, 2015
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    Hello Kamegorou,

    Thank you for your information and stories. Very nice to hear! Keep us updated, I love this thread!

    Ciao
    Oscar

    Ps better move this to the general vintage section?
     
  11. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    275GTB long nose/Alloy!! You have a great cars!!!
    I know the japanese owner of the 275GTB long nose/Alloy. This person took part as the only Asians in the "Ferrari Days 1983". (Automobile Clib Modena)
    "Ferrari Days" and "Raid Ferrari d' Epoca 1981". (Banko di Roma)
    These two events, I was fascinated by the Italian domestic Ferrari. These two events, longing for my Italy it reached the apex!

    After that, Many of those vintage Ferrari, have out to outside Italy... I am really lonely...
    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  12. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Hallo!
    Today, I tried to examine the old literature.  It was, but it was Ambiguous record...
    I. GI had [410superamerica] , seems to have been witnessed in the" Misawa Air Base". (US military base)
    However, it also also exists a record that is "250GT" rather than "410Superamerica".  (The Old Record is written as "unconfirmed")
    II. I believe that "275GTB" is Japan's First new car.  However, "330GT" which was imported in the previous year,
    might be Japan's first new car.
    ** Old days of Japan's record, there is an unknown part without established theory. **

    P.S.
    "Superamerica" is not...? I think it is "250".  Superamerica, If it is not a Hollywood Star, I think it's impossible to buy. ??

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  13. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #13 GT (giapponese-tifosi), May 21, 2015
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    Hallo!
    I think car this Lusso was first imported in Japan in the '70s, but please pay attention to the "Special Bumper".
    Lusso is a Beautiful Car !  However, the Mask, perhaps, might be a little more complicated.
    Come to think of it, last until the Prototype did not have a auxiliary lights. (Because the motive is similar to the SWB mask,
    I think of incorporating the final auxiliary lights)
    And, Mr.Chuck Jordan (GM), it had to remove the front bumper of his car Lusso.

    If anyway buy a Ferrari, think there was a belief that Large-Engine. (275 and 365 was popular)
    Japan is also the same as in Italy, because the Small-Engine Car was the mainstream of the country.
    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
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  14. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Longing No. 1 in the '60s Japan was American cars.  It was a country boy I did not almost look at the real cars.
    Japan's Ferrari at that time, was of course more a Dream. However, everyone was not looking at the real cars ...

    *Japan was a poor country. Many people, the goal was the "purchase of Bubble Cars 360cc".
    Japanese Mini 360 > $1055.  Ferrari 330GT > $29,167!  330GTC > $38,888!!
    (Subaru WRC this age was making Japanese Mini 360!)
    * It is also funny story in the Car professionals. Pronunciation and spelling that do not know they even.
    It had been sometimes referred to as the "Feraley"!? (or, Fellali??)

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
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  16. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Mr.David, Thank you for your teachings!  Again, the power of the Internet is Great!!
    I have continued for many years Ferrari hobby only passion, But it was powerless to have isolated...
    Information power of FerrariChat is amazing!!!
    regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  17. stevenwk

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    #17 stevenwk, May 29, 2015
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    Hello Kamegorou.

    Welcome and thank you for your contributions to Ferrari Chat.

    I have had this magazine from Japan for years, but cannot translate the title into English!!

    There is a review of the 330 GTC plus auto show photos from I believe Tokyo.

    Most of the articles are in Japanese, but some have been translated into English too.

    Are these magazines still available in Japan?

    Steve
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  18. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Thank you message!
    You have a Very rare magazine!
    The title of this magazine is " Car Graphic ".
    This was a High-end car magazine of Japan. ( and, the Most thick magazine )
    In Japan at that time, lovers buy a luxury magazine was a minority. Therefore it is rare magazine!
    This magazine is also available still, But pretty weakened...

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  19. stevenwk

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    Thanks Kamegorou. I bought the magazine about 15 years ago. The person who sold it to me had the magazine re-bound so it is in perfect condition. He told me that it was rare, but I was not sure about that.

    Thank you again for the information.

    Regards,
    Steve
     
  20. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Hello, Enthusiast.

    275GTB and 330GTC, New car was Only one each import.
    330GTC (Previous, Mr.stevenwk's magazine cover car), But at that time the Engine was replaced for some reason. 
    Surprise, 365 Engine-Assy is sent from the Factory!  That, in fact 365engine was to be swap for 330GTC... !?
    Once this fact know the Modern Ferrari Historians,  It will be pointed out that [Not a matching number!!].

    * However, The past is that Ferrari S.p.A. was also Rough.  
      In other words, the relationship of "250GTE" and "330America". Of the time they would of looked like this!?
    * Olden days...  They were "local small factory".  It was still there is a little rough surface.

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  21. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #21 GT (giapponese-tifosi), Jun 13, 2015
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    Hello, Enthusiasts.
    Ferrari has been imported to Japan, from getting to the age of the Cast Wheel.
    Therefore, the Owner was longing to Borrani. (I think there was also the influence of popular "Jaguar. E-type" in Japan.)
    However, in previous Japan since the maintenance of Borrani has been difficult, it seems to have given up the adoption.

    P.S.
    330GTC, I think Borrani look good!
    And, Borrani & Daytona, looks very good in the United States!  (It does not suit a little in Japanese Landscape...)

    Regards,
    GT. Kamegorou.
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  22. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    Hello, Enthusiasts.
    Everyone, Old Japan of Ferrari think that it was found to be special.
    * This time, we want to describe the long-awaited GTO. *

    When I think now, in the 1980s Japan was Amazing!
    * First and Second imported GTO, [Both Le Mans -Winner] !!
    * From 1980s to the 90s.  There were Two of the [GT Winning Cars] to Japan !!!

    #3705 GT > 1962 Winner.  #4293 GT > 1963 Winner.
    # 4293 is GTO that has been imported into First to Japan in 1982  (From, Mr. Steve Earle. Laguna Seca) .
    The Owner of this # 4293, So did not participate in the events in Japan, I did finally not looking at the real car.
    Owner of # 3705, Also, there was not event participation.

    However, subsequent Mr.Matsuda, To we publish the GTO.  Matsuda Collection of Owner is a Great Person!!

    Regards,
    Kamegorou.
     
  23. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    I am thanks to the collection of Mr. Matsuda, was able to encounter most of the historical and valuable Ferrari. 
    *** This experience was valuable and wonderful thing!! ***

    And, there was no prosperity in Japan Historic-Car Race. That is the rather was Good. 
    (It is because the closer to the figure at the time the '60s).
    For example, in today's race, it needs reinforcement of roll-bar.
    It results in a small change in the atmosphere of the Original Vehicle
    I was able to touch with the Original appearance of many Vintage Ferrari
    However, overseas enthusiast can see scene in the race.
    Original and Modern-Race Specification. It is impossible to satisfy both...

    GT. Kamegorou.
     
  24. GT (giapponese-tifosi)

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    #24 GT (giapponese-tifosi), Aug 1, 2015
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    As has been described until now, Also the old Japan and Ferrari relationship is special.

    * It's 1963, first of [Japan Grand Prix]. Came to Japan, The "Strongest SEFAC Hot-Rod" !!! *
     (#2729GT.  Chassis. Tipo539/61Comp, 293-hp, Weight.980kg).  Driver, Pierre Dumay.

    At the time, I do not think that Mr.Dumay came to Japan to bring all type of the Mission.
    Even so, the selection of the gear-ratio of the first Circuit-Run, I think it was difficult.
    I never drove SWB, but the Lifting of the Front of that cornering think scary. 
    (It is a figure of the cornering of old '50s).
    Personally, I think that it is best if 5-speed transmission.

    GT. Kamegorou.
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    The black white photo shows 250 GT Lusso chassis #4461 GT with the late Charles M. "Chuck" Jordan, head of GM Design. He owned 4461 GT from 1969 to 1974.

    Marcel Massini
     

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