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Is the Monza selling?

Discussion in 'Icona Series (SP1, SP2, & SP3)' started by BarryK, May 1, 2019.

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  1. dustman

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    I still cant believe buyers fell for that.
     
  2. willcrook

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    I can, the trend was going away from manual cars (try buying a manual ferrari new!)
     
  3. dustman

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    Very easily seen thru as a veiled cash grab. They were always going to make more manuals.
     
  4. willcrook

    willcrook Formula 3

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    meh, they'd of sold out of them regardless just based on limited numbers and the engine etc

    let's not forget that the 't' range is marketed and actually sells as a hardcore lightweight car when the cayman t is literally 5 grams (the fabric door handles) lighter than a standard car.
     
  5. obbob

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    I wouldn't say overproduced since I'm happy that more people who want the car will get it. But it's definitely not a rare car. Generally they produce about 4500 of each variant. The 991 generation had 5 GT variants so that's about 22K units. Add in the GT4, 911 R, and Speedster units and you're right, not a rare car at all.

    I think the rarest non-limited variant of the 911 is actually the Targa model haha.
     
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  6. Shack

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    Very easy to get any GT Porsche these days (that's 2RS and 3RS). In fact in my geo for the first time Porsche are chasing me (on the 718 GT4) as sales are not there and there is no interest to trade up from the 981 GT4.
     
  7. dustman

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    The new one with the bad sounding engine?
     
  8. jeffmoore

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    Agree on the Targa, especially the 991.1 GTS version. I bought such a car as a daily driver when it came out, by now it has 90k km.

    Was replaced by the 991.2 already in something like 6 months... what surprised me is that values keep up close to mrsp, in Europe for these types. Thats only possible for such a car if it is rare, i was expecting much more depreciation ;-)
     
  9. Shack

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    An extra 30hp with and extra 80kg's of weight - yup that one.

    Anyway will see it F2F in Sept so will reserve my final judgement until then but on paper I would not change over.
     
  10. willcrook

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    Harder to get rhd models here anyway
     
  11. elmadi

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    Thank you for your post and a reminder about the danger of racing.
     
  12. elmadi

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    I have been reading all the threads and somehow it it stops in year 2019. I came across yours and do much agree. Yes, here is a "virtual" hug my friend
     
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  13. elmadi

    elmadi Formula 3

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    Hello there, any update if you got your SP2 already? May I ask what specs did you get.... thank you
     
  14. Andy348

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    Any updates on Monza pricing? Were earlier predictions correct, have they fallen under the ~$2MM USD MSRP?
     
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  15. George330

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    On the contrary. They have appreciated very strongly


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  16. Caeruleus11

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    Very curious note about the working of the website: I saw this thread highlighted in the page that shows all the forums, but when I go the Icona forum, this is not shown...

    Incidentally, my understanding is exactly the same as George's.
     
  17. rob lay

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    not exactly sure what you're referring too. I see this thread in Icona forum. This is a new category, so all Icona threads were moved here from other forums and we left a redirect.
     
  18. Caeruleus11

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  20. Caeruleus11

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    It just came up for me - talk about weird!


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  21. rob lay

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    cookie thing
     
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  22. NeilF8888

    NeilF8888 Formula 3

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    Back to the thread, has anyone heard about Monza sales now that the 18 month sales ban has expired? I know of none mostly because the original purchasers don’t want to lose their option on the Daytona SP3 or future Icona models.
     
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  23. Lcawley

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    I bought an SP2 Monza 15 months ago in the US. There were two others for sale in the US at that time.


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  24. rob lay

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    congrats!
     
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  25. Marcel Massini

    Marcel Massini Two Time F1 World Champ
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    2019 Monza SP1, rosso fuoco with yellow stripe, #250235, coming up for auction at RM Sotheby's Villa Erba sale in Italy 20 May 2023. Brand new car, 26 original kms.
    Estimate Euro € 2.5 to Euro € 3.0 M, available at no reserve.

    Marcel Massini
     
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