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  1. spicedriver

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    #4428 Aircon, Oct 25, 2020
    For all the chatter about the adolescence of the first debate and the blown chance for a second, President Trump reignited the lamp of hope that 2016 was but a harbinger of 2020. He answered the bell.
    Contrary to expectations, this did not turn into another partisan scrum where none were listening and all were shouting. In big ways and small, we witnessed the inherent difference between a lifetime politician raised by the system and a consummate outsider bred to challenge it.
    As opposed to the first square-off, where the moderator tried too hard to be a major part of it, NBC's Kristen Welker created a virtual classroom where Americans were schooled on why this election matters. Yet it's fair to observe that the questions posed seemed geared more toward reinforcing a Democratic nominee.
    Little time was spent delving into foreign policy, as if North Korea (armed to its nuclear teeth) merited no more than passing attention, or the historic breakthrough in the Middle East between Israel, Bahrain and the United Arab Emirates, which earned the president a Nobel Peace Prize nomination.
    Scant attention was paid to the challenger's intention to raise taxes versus drilling down on the president's own or to Trump's landmark achievement on criminal justice reform.
    No time at all was given to the issue of law and order and the movement to defund police, despite the looting and burning that devastated the peace (and closed down scores of small businesses) in major American cities.
    Instead, following a thorough and necessary opener on COVID-19, this civics lesson revolved more around ObamaCare, race relations, immigration and climate change, issues the former vice president swung at - knowing that the outfield fences had been moved closer to home plate for his at-bats.
    With that said, here are five key takeaways:
    One. He's back on his game. Trump was disciplined, substantive and presidential. If he'd done the same in Cleveland a few weeks back, he'd be surging.
    Two. Unforced errors. Without cause, Biden threw Barack Obama under the bus for not doing enough on immigration and Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren for doing too much to impose government-run health care on everyone. Inexplicably, Biden did his best George H.W. Bush debate gaffe imitation by looking at his watch (at least twice), hoping the clock would spare him from one of his own.
    Three. Stamina. The longer the debate wore on, the more Biden wore out. Given all the questions raised about his physical endurance and mental acuity to handle the most difficult (and aging) job on the planet, this was not an encouraging sign. By contrast, even post-COVID-19 illness, the president looked like he could go all night.
    Four. Opening versus closing. Biden has few qualms about closing some, most or all of the nation to take on COVID-19; Trump clearly feels angst doing any of that, knowing the fallout from an economic pandemic (joblessness, hopelessness, drug abuse, domestic violence) can be as devastating as the disease itself.
    Five. Outsider versus insider. In the final stages of the debate, the president closed in on Biden's repeated promises to change the world, despite a 47-year record during which he changed very little. It was an effective exchange for the incumbent outsider because it forced voters to question why they should believe Biden would suddenly do what he's never done before.
    More than 47 million people have already voted, with another 100 million or more left to go. Like Hillary Clinton four years ago, Biden has the early lead in the polls. Yet with performances like last night, be prepared for a thrilling stretch run where Biden plays the presumptive favorite and Trump the underrated underdog. It's War Admiral versus Seabiscuit all over again. And we all know how that one turned out.
     
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    I hope this stuff is made up.
     
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    Two weeks until Election Day, social media is rife with attacks on Joe Biden’s son Hunter Biden.

    A New York Post story about a recovered computer hard drive led to attacks about the Biden son’s business dealings. Facebook and cable news have gone further to suggest new and unsupported theories about what’s on the hard drive.

    One text post says, "Hunter Biden had 25,000 pics of him torturing and raping children under age 10 in China on his laptop!"

    Claims like this were amplified by websites like Natural News and InfoWars. Facebook has long banned the sites for posting anti-vaccine misinformation and hate speech, but we found one InfoWars video on Facebook with more than 173,000 views. It claims Trump "has footage of Hunter Biden raping and torturing little girls."

    These posts were flagged as part of Facebook’s efforts to combat false news and misinformation on its News Feed. (Read more about our partnership with Facebook.) Similar posts have been shared tens of thousands of times, according to CrowdTangle, a social media insights tool.

    We can’t say for certain what is or isn’t on a hard drive. But there is no evidence to support allegations that it contains thousands of images of Hunter Biden abusing children in China.


    (Screenshot from Facebook)

    The unproven claim has roots on a fringe internet forum that’s a known source of online disinformation, 4chan.

    On Oct. 15, Chanel Rion, the chief White House correspondent for One America News Network — a pro-Trump cable TV network — tweeted that she had seen the contents of the hard drive at the center of the New York Post story.

    "Drugs, underage obsessions, power deals," she said in the post. "Druggie Hunter makes Anthony Weiner's down under selfie addiction look normal."

    The tweet, which was shared more than 53,000 times, then made its way to 4chan, where users anonymously speculated that it meant the FBI was investigating Hunter Biden. One user posing as Rion affirmed that speculation, saying the hard drive contained child pornography.

    The real Rion tweeted Oct. 16 that she did not write the posts.

    "For the record: I do not post on chat forums," she wrote. "I understand there are hoaxers posing as me."

    But it was too late. Social media users dedicated to QAnon, a baseless conspiracy theory that claims Trump is secretly fighting a cabal of Satan-worshipping, cannibalistic, left-leaning pedophiles, took the 4chan posts as evidence that the FBI was investigating Hunter Biden for potentially possessing child pornography.

    By Sunday, the conspiracy theory had made its way to Fox News. "Sunday Morning Futures" host Maria Bartiromo noted that a name written on the back of a federal subpoena included in the Post’s story appears to belong to Joshua Wilson, an FBI agent who has worked on child pornography cases.

    "Connect the dots: If an FBI agent is working on child pornography issues for five years, why is he subpoenaing the laptop of Hunter Biden? Is there a connection here?" Bartiromo asked Sen. Ron Johnson, R-Wis.

    Johnson did not give a direct answer. "Well, I think you just made the connection," he said. "Again, this is what the FBI, I think, has to come clean about."

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    Kamala Harris “has not formally taken questions from the press a single time” since she was announced as Joe Biden’s vice presidential pick.
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    Later that day, a tweet from Wayne Allyn Root, a conservative radio host who has pushed false claims about former President Barack Obama’s birthplace and the identity of the 2017 Las Vegas shooter, claimed to have breaking news.

    "My sources-as high up as it gets- watched videos on Hunter’s laptops TODAY. Just told me point blank...no rumor...they saw Hunter raping & torturing little Chinese children," he tweeted.

    When asked in an email for evidence to support his claims aside from anonymous sources, Root did not provide any.

    Concerns about the New York Post story
    There’s a lot we still don’t know about the hard drive at the center of the New York Post coverage.

    The story about Joe Biden and a Ukraine meeting relies on information from a computer hard drive that the tabloid said it received from Trump’s personal lawyer, former New York Mayor Rudy Giuliani. The computer was supposedly left unclaimed at a Delaware computer shop, the owner of which called the FBI and a Giuliani associate after noticing a sticker for the Beau Biden Foundation on the laptop. The emails cited in the Post’s article, which we are not able to verify, do not establish that a meeting between the elder Biden and a Ukrainian businessman ever occurred.

    Nowhere in the Post’s story is Hunter Biden linked to child pornography. We reached out to the FBI for more information, but it declined to comment due to its practice of "neither confirming nor denying the existence of an investigation."

    Remember these points as you see claims about the laptop and stories around it.

    It's unclear if the name on the back of the subpoena actually belongs to Joshua Wilson, or if there’s more than one FBI agent who goes by that name. It’s also unconfirmed if the subpoena in the Post’s story was for the laptop.

    Federal investigators are looking into whether emails found on the laptop could be linked to a foreign intelligence operation to discredit Joe Biden. (More than 50 former intelligence officials told Politico they appear to be. Director of National Intelligence John Ratcliffe says they’re not.)

    Staffers at the Post expressed concerns about the story’s credibility before it was published. Fox News passed on the story until the emails could be properly vetted.

    The owner of the computer repair shop told reporters that, while he couldn’t confirm it was Hunter Biden who dropped off the laptop because he is "legally blind," he also said he didn't see child pornography on the computer.

    No other news organizations have seen or corroborated the data supposedly on the laptop's hard drive.




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    #4432 Aircon, Oct 25, 2020
    I don't give a damn about the porn.......I give a damn about whether or not Joe Biden is compromised or not. The emails.....I don't know why anyone is going on the other tangent. It seems he was receiving money from Russia, China and Ukraine according to the emails. The rest is a whole different thing.

    The emails are verified and damning, but nothing seems to be happening because of them.
     
  8. spicedriver

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    #4433 spicedriver, Oct 25, 2020
    You forgot to quote Politifact.

    Qanon is a strawman. I have yet to see 10 yr old Chinese girls being tortured yet, but that GTV claims they do have such video. Nothing would surprise me at this point. 4chan (the bad guys) banned the foot sex video and the poster, because they think it's child porn. Unless you personally know the girls in the pics and videos, you don't really know for sure if they are underage. But they look petty young to me. And one of them looks just like Hunter's niece, who is underage.

    If this wasn't Hunters laptop, Hunter and his lawyers wouldn't have been calling, and emailing asking for it back.

    With regards to the business dealings, recipients of the emails have verified that they are authentic. With Bevan Cooney (Hunters former business partner who is now in jail), and Bobulinski offering up their emails and texts as proof. I have no doubt that Joe Biden was using his family and his political position to profit financially, with no regard to what's best for the country. Sure other pols have done it, still do it, and will always do it. That's no excuse.

    We don't need this kind of crack-head depravity in the White House. https://gnews.org/451659/
     
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    #4436 Aircon, Oct 25, 2020
    From our ABC

    Some are reading the lines like tea leaves for the election outcome, noting that 49 per cent of the early votes are from Democrats, compared to 27 per cent from Republicans.
     
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    Lol

     
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    #4441 Ferraridoc, Oct 26, 2020
    When mandatory world-wide vaccination creates the Zombie Apocalypse... You can never be too prepared
     
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    #4442 spicedriver, Oct 26, 2020
    Best post so far !
     
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    #4443 spicedriver, Oct 26, 2020
    Biden confuses Trump with George Bush.

     
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    Biden can't remember his own name.




    I knew it when I came in here man.

     
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    Biden Puts Together Voter Fraud Organization

     
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    Biden Can't Remember Who He Ran Against For President

    The Mormon Senator who was a Governor. lol

     
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    #4450 moretti, Oct 27, 2020
    So NOW you're comparing America to Nazi Germany ??

    FFS, grow up and FO

    In Australia we live in a civilised society ,,... you lot should try it, there is NO excuse for that many MILITARY guns .... dickheads
     
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