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Ignition Lead Rebuild

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  1. andyww

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    #1 andyww, Nov 13, 2013
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    When I removed my ignition leads I found a couple of them had gone solid and actually snapped into pieces under the silicone sleeve.

    High time to do something. I was not about to pay the crazy price for a set of new leads so looked into rebuilding as many people have done. Its even easier than I thought!

    This is what the inner of my leads looked like!

    The first step is to unscrew the screw in the inside of the contact in the distributor cap and remove it. This simply pierces the lead to make the contact. Then the lead can be removed from the cap.

    Then, at the plug end, fold back the part of the outer sleeve which covers the plug cap.

    TBC
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    #2 andyww, Nov 13, 2013
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    Next:

    Cut off the inner lead flush with the end of the plug cap. Use something which is approx 7mm diameter to push the end of the lead into the cap.
    Alternately use pliers to pull on the plug connector from the inside of the cap. After alternating between pushing and pulling a few times it comes out. (Better rephrase that :))

    Place the connector in a vice and using a large screwdriver the crimp can be opened out and the wire removed.

    NOTE there is a small contact which is pushed into the end of the wire, which connects the inner wire coil to the outside and contacts the crimped connection. Dont lose this!
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    #3 andyww, Nov 13, 2013
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    The wire I used was Magnecor Electrosport 70 which is a 7mm coiled-conductor wire. This type of wire must be used, do not use solid copper conductor wire.
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    #4 andyww, Nov 13, 2013
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    Push the new wire through the red sleeving from the distributor cap end, and then roll the end in baby powder to enable it to slide through the plug cap. (My wife wondered why I had baby power in my workshop but she is naturally suspicious:))

    Push through the cap until it protrudes.

    Insert the small U-shaped contact so that the inner end is between the inner coil core and the insulation of the inner wire.
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    #5 andyww, Nov 13, 2013
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    For crimping the connector back on, I used a proper hex crimp tool. These are relatively inexpensive and you can also buy sets which a tool and replaceable dies on Ebay which contain hex dies. Probably worth the investment but not 100% necessary, pliers could probably be used instead. But I am a tool junkie :)

    Then push the contact home back into the cap so it is fully seated. Finish with a new new shrink-fit "number" and roll the outer sleeve back over the cap.

    The other end is simply cut to length with approx 30mm of the inner cable exposed, ready to refit back into the distributor cap. Rinse and repeat for all the others. I have not done the coil leads yet, will update if necessary.

    Easy! Couple of 100 dollars saved in a few minutes.
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  6. nerodino

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    Andy,
    Well timed! I was just thinking about doing this after seeing the price of ready made leads.
    Where did you buy everything from? and did you manage to get new red sleeving as well as new cable idents?
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    Did exactly the same thing a few years back. Used Belden spiral wound 7mm wire from NAPA.
     
  8. andyww

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    The Magnecor wire I ordered direct from Magnecor UK, 01530 274 975. very inexpensive.

    I didnt replace the sleeving because it was OK but I would think similar silicone sleeving is readily available. Cable idents on Ebay.
     
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    Where can I get those white sleeves with the number on it?
     
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    Andy,
    I just had a quick look at Magnecor's web site and noticed that they did red silicone cable, albeit 8.5 mm.......Just wondering was there a reason for using the 7.0 mm Black and sleeving it?
     
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    8.5 mm will not fit correctly in the distributor caps.
     
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    You can even eliminate the plug extenders entirely if you do this.
     
  14. E-Dino

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    Andy, Thanks for taking the time and effort to post your photos and tips. It is good timing for me as the Dino's wires are of unknown age and I recently had an aborted trip to north LA because one spark plug started to foul about 1/4 the way up. The cleaned up plug fixed the problem ("Lucky" again for me my trip home goes by some crazy-ass Ferrari dudes house that is inventing the coolest things in his shop and makes time to help me clean a plug) but the root cause was not found. So I am going after the plug wires first. (I also have a fuel theory but that is a different and slightly loony rant). On my current wires the resistance measured from cap to the end of the wire varies greatly between leads and the lead with the failed plug is not the highest. Does anybody know that after I build my new wires (thanks again Andy for the tips) should I expect the same resistance reading across leads and how close to you think they need to be to each other?
     
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    The resistance reading will be different because all the leads are differing lengths. The exact resistance is non-critical, it should be around 5-10 K ohms.
     
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    #16 andyww, Nov 28, 2013
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    Just a quick update:

    To rework the coil lead in the same way as original, a short length of heatshrink sleeving is needed. This needs to be 10mm diameter pre-shrink. This is fitted to the boot to prevent it from sliding down the wire. Its hidden under the outer red silicone sleeve normally.
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    To round this off, the length of wire required in total including the coil leads is 21 feet. But suggest buy 25 feet to have some spare in case of mishap.
     
  18. Harry-SZ

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    I did this last week, was easier than I thought.
    Thanks for this very good write up!

    I only have one question:
    The 2 coil lead cables on my car did not have the small contact metal pieces pushed in them.
    Is that fine or should I add this myself? And I am not really sure what to use for it.
     

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