Hello Enzo lovers including myself : I had watched online the launch of Gordon Murray's amazing T.50 and his several interviews from different you tube channels. I listen intently how he explain about the T.50 which fully manual, 3.9 litre V12 Cosworth engine, 12000 rpm, 660 hp, weighs only 980 kgs and seats 3 person. Now I am thinking if we have a $3M to spare in buying an Enzo; do we rather wait and buy the upcoming T.50? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
I’m debating this one myself. For me it comes down to F50 or T.50. Definitely pros and cons to both. I tend to lately be biased towards the modern analog, which Ferrari hasn’t been producing. Hopefully there’s a chance with some of the Icona’s
T50 all day. Although the F50 would be a tempting option if it were me. I hope to have this dilemma one day.
I suspect the hybrid system of the LaF is going to make it a tricky thing to own long term. I do agree with F40 and F50...
I would just change f50 to be first .. that will be the one to have in 10 20 years .. Sent from my moto g(7) using Tapatalk
I personally think the T50 looks too soft, round and overall dated. The driving experience however would probably make that all moot...12k redline, manual V12 wawaweewa.
T50 looks too much like a new mclaren to me and not enough like the f1. Enzo is fugly to me and the f1 system hasnt aged well.
T50 aesthetics are not commensurate with the asking price by a long shot. Actually pretty boring for such a car.
They should have had Peter Stevens style the T50, he got is so right the second time around with the LM/GTR iteration of the F1 imagine what he could have come up with after 30 years of spotting any additional flaws in that design as GM has with the engineering side of things.
Would go t50 based on build philosophy and ingredients. Design suits the point-of-view behind it - if not the disco - and, as with the F1 before it, might look even cooler w/LeMans win?
This whole project reminds me of an aging rock band trying to recapture past glory by putting out a long-awaited album 25 years after the smash hit that launched it to fame, the new album is really good, but it just doesn't have anywhere near the raw excitement the original hit had. IMO, as a Supercar, this T50 is very underwhelming, it seems the designer traded heavily on the F1 for inspiration, and the rear end with that propeller-like gismo is a deal-breaker.
I agree with Joe almost entirely. However, the weight blows my mind. Light cars are the holy grail and nobody else is offering this kind of vehicle. I expect the driving to be sensational, but given the price they won't be driven, with collectors hoping they will be worth $20M one day.
If a 12,000 rpm, na, 3.9 litre V12 Cosworth engine in a light weight car with a manual isn't exciting to you, I suggest you check yourself for a pulse. Serious question. Does age (generation) have an influence in desire for such a car? Old(er) person might not appreciate a screaming v12 in their ears or have the desire to row their own gears. .
I have to disagree. The car that underwhelmed me the most, given the expectations I had, was the featherweight Lotus Elise. Low weight by itself doesn 't say much. The whole package has to "come together". 4 litres (3994 cc) to be exact. An anachronism...
I was using the 288 as a baseline, since it's the lightest of the Ferrari supercars - I'm giving GM the benefit of the doubt when it comes to the overall package. If he can't do it, I don't know who can.
I completely disagree with all of this. Frankly in a world where somehow manufacturers are prescribing ever heavier ever more complicated cars this is a perfect illustration as what is actually needed for make a great drivers car. If anything to me this car is even more exciting now when I look at bloated over complex cars like the SF90 and huge cars like the Speed Tail. The T50 is to me what a supercar should be, simple and created for pure driving pleasure rather than bar counter figure bragging. As for the comparison, the T50 for me as a drivers car over the Enzo, purely because of the paddle shift which while not terrible does age the car but to me the cars aren't really comparable at all. Enzo would be a great collector car, the T50 would be an amazing drivers car.
The engine and straight-line performance didn't really bother me. I didn't like the turn in, the brakes and the steering. It was a bit dim-witted.
wow, every one talk about T50, I wonder if Gordon Murray was expecting that his new child will have such big impact on world of sport cars