I went in for a 5k major, it cost XXXX more and here's what happened"

Surprise costs and what they were vs. I agreed to the extras "while i was in there"...right? or list all?

sjd

 

I have a Mondial T, so I think I can fit in with the 348/355 crowd.

Had an engine out major service performed in 2014 which included a clutch replacement in 2014, inclusive of tensioners, but no work on the water pump as I was advised against it. There were additional incidentals, mostly cosmetic so I will call it $8000 as the invoice is not in front of me.

A year later my water pump and cam seals developed a significant leak, so it was time for major #2. During this major, the steering rack boots and cv joints were refurbished. During the prior service the fuel line connectors on the fuel rail were over torqued and cracked ($750 each) AC union cracked, one of the adjustable suspension gears cracked. There were additional incidentals here as well, but lets call it $8000.

Most recently, an overhaul of my Valeo ECU, $6000. I know the Valeo ecu is particular to my car but I would imagine ECM's go bad, suspension computers, etc.

 

A bare bones major to include those items in the UK is about £1500. My last major went up to £4k and included some welding of the engine subframe, new brake lines, CV boots, water pump bearing, engine mounts, some water pipes, a new central undertray and some electrical gremlins.

 

I went in for a $5000 major and I had 2 cracked gaskets between my Hyperflows and Tubi. I approved the spot welding to fix this and the additional $100 in labor.

 

My dealer advertises a similar amount for a "bare-bones" major service. I was quoted about $15k as my suspension warning light is on and the speedometer is not working. My service isn't until the first week or so of January. Lets see what happens.

 

A) I think 5K is very much on the low side
B) these cars are approaching 20 years old, and a lot of the plastic and rubber components SHOULD be <ahem> renewed at any major.

It basically costs $2500 just to pull the engine and push it back in there.
Then there are parts, labor, and unexpected things worthy of being maintained--maintained because you don't want to have them cause an issue when they are hard to reach mid-way to your next scheduled engine out.

 

Maybe not interesting, but comparing the prices with Sweden were I live, an ordinary major is around $3000 inc oil service for my F355. (authorised dlr) Seem a lot cheaper than in US. Last major I was advised to also exchange the waterpump at the same time which I did. Also changed cam belts, tensioners and alternstor tensioner and some other small stuff. This ended up to $4000 (when I convert the currency rate)

 

Right.
I don't know how the UK guys can do it for 1500 pounds, or quids as they call them.

 

How long does it take to drop the engine and get it back in, if you do it for a living? I can't see it taking more than a day. Add another half-day for belts/timing/fluids. Seems reasonable to me. Actually, make it a whole day for those jobs. Then double it. I suppose you might just then make it to $5,000.

I'm amazed that dealers are quoting $15k dollars to fix a suspension light, based on nothing, and expecting to get the work.

 

Good idea for a thread.

My '98 has over 70k miles, so this may not be typical. Before opening everything up, my mechanic found low compression and poor leakdown on a few cylinders. Guides were fine since they were done at 60k, but valves needed to be machined and 'while we were in there' we went ahead a replaced piston rings. ~$20k total. This also included water pump, tensioners, and the usual stuff. It stung, but the car is generally in very good condition, so I figure it's good to go for a while. It's also very well documented with pictures etc, which may be important if I ever decide to sell this high-mile car (not that I'm considering it right now).

 

The suspension warning light may be on because your speedometer system isn't working. It could be a speedo sensor (common failure). Last time I checked, they weren't $10,000.

If not the speedo sensor causing your suspension warning light, some suspension defects can be fixed for less than $20.

 

I'd request an itemized quote. Love to know how they arrived at that figure.

 

Well, it's Australia. Things ARE expensive. The 355 are $200K there.

 

Nope - Paul lives in MI, Mitch

 

I know ?
How much to ship my 355 to Europe for a major .......lol

 

I paid 10k CAD for a major last year, including new tensioners, clutch, battery and installation of test pipes all around. At that time the exchange rate was a bit better so it was something like 7500$ USD. I think that's a good price.

 

I have a 20 page invoice from a previous owner I can post if people would like. Total cost was $20k+ at the end. You can watch the rabbit hole they went down tracing a misfire, including valve guides (which it may have indeed needed). End cause was a bad fuel injector. I think the car was sold shortly after - not sure if the service was to prepare it for sale or left such a bad taste that it resulted in the sale.

 

So while were on the operating table you want a tummy tuck and breast implants to go with that colonoscopy? Maybe a hooter on the back for when your dancing?

 

The £1500 in the UK is engine out, swap just the two belts for new ones, engine back in. I bet no one has ever come away simply spending £1500. It starts with "oh your tensioners also need replacing that will be another £££ oh your cams seals are leaking, a further £££ etc etc. It was £2200 with Dick Lovetts (main dealer) in Swindon for the £1500 indi charge and that ended up just shy of £4k in the end and that was me reigning them in for another host of work they claimed needed sorting on my buddys 355 last year which I told him was not essential.

 

Come on guys. We all love these cars etc, but let’s get real - 7500 for a car service is never! a good price. Never. It’s 7500!!

A good price would be $50. But let’s face it, that’s not possible, so it is what it is.

But let’s not kid ourselves, these cars are expensive to run. And that’s the truth!

 

7500$ compared to some who have 12-15k in a major...thats a good price comparatively speaking. 50$ wont even get my skateboard serviced

 

$50 doesn't get much of anything serviced anymore...(insert hooker joke here)

 

My $5300 major service cost me just over $11,000....

however, i did a LOT of extra and preventative stuff.

Rebuilt / Recharge AC Compressor
Water Pump
Tensioners / Throw Out Bearings
Motor Mounts

etc