i need your mille miglia advice....

I cant tell you about the process but have you thought about doing the Ferrari rally that follows the Mille Miglia?? Sure it is not the same thing but it's probably very close..

 

Hi Ross,

get your self an unique as possible car. A jag 120/140 or Porsche 356 without any history will make your chances very low. Also cars from 49-53 will give you the highest chance as the organisations favorits them (see 1000miglia.eu).

Go through the list of eligible cars and you will find some interesting ones that are sparse. But hurry up as the subscription closes mid december, so I think 2012 will be more suitable.
Also renting a car is possible, although I have no experience with that.
Good luck, and see you in Brescia.

ciao
Oscar

 

Dont have an official link but look here :

http://www.sportscardigest.com/ferrari-tribute-to-mille-miglia-2010-photo-gallery-and-video/

It was a Tribute Rally with 140 Ferraris. It looks like it was successful so im thinking Ferrari Spa will do it again.

 

I've given some consideration to buying a Studebaker Golden Hawk and giving it a try. They are eligible, relatively inexpensive, and it looks to me like one has never entered the modern Mille Miglia-- thus more likely to be accepted.

 

IMO get a car that is rare but woild be fun to drive and simple to maintain.
Sunbeam Rapier?
Studebaker Golden Hawk?

 

I participated in this and it was great. You're getting 80% of the MM experience, albeit at the same price of the real MM. Ferrari are definitely doing it again, the subscriptions are open right now.

Please note that from this year, your Ferrari (pre 1981) needs to be certified, and for later cars it helps your chances (their words not mine).

Regarding AC Bristols, you won't get a decent one for $150k anymore. I also believe they have a low chance of getting accepted, unless the actual car participated back in the day.
Friends are entering a Bristol that actually raced in the MM and I'm fairly sure that one will get in, but it also helps that the car has participated before (not just in the real race but in the MM Storica too) and is located in Brescia (...if you know what I mean....). For myself, I will hopefully be renting a car for the MM this year. That is not cheap but neither is buying an MM car. If you have the right contacts then you can get your hands on a car that has a high chance of getting in.

Also note that the later your car was built, the later your starting time. If you are driving in the back of the rallye, you will arrive in various places in the early hours of the morning and the crowds will have gone home. It's much better and more fun to have a car pre-1953. This is the one advantage the Ferrari Tribute has over the MM - it precedes the MM so you arrive everywhere first with an enthousiastic crowd.

The MM is definitely higher prestige than the MM Tribute. But if you don't have an eligible MM car but you do have a Ferrari with a reasonable chance of getting in, then joining the MM Tribute gives you a tremendous slice of MM experience and I heartily recommend it.


Onno

 

Details from last year are on the Ferrari.com site and there should be a booking form for this year as I think entries close soon

Found it : http://www.ferrari.com/English/GT_Sport%20Cars/GT/Pages/Home.aspx

You get all the expense & sleep deprivation without having to buy an old car !

 

I've been looking at buying a Daytona in the UK.Was thinking of doing the MM retro,but noway will I be giving SPA money for a bit paper.

 

maybe ugly but with that supercharger would be fast in a straight line.
My father owned them when new,reconds they were fast for there time.

 

Here you go:

http://www.fantasyjunction.com/cars/410-Allard-K3%20Roadster-Cadillac%20V8

 

Fair enough, but it's their event and their rules. It is the single reason my 330GTC was certified - to participate in future events organised by Ferrari. Now you can complain and say it's not right and so on, but I decided that the status quo can't be changed. Maybe some people call me sell-out, but I call myself practical. And it isn't THAT much money, IMHO. I also like the fact that I can ring the doorbell at Via Abetone anyday and drop in at the factory. They've been great in getting my car fixed for the MM Tribute last year too. All in all, I'm happy with the value proposition.

It shouldn't be all that hard to make sure that the car is eligible. It is a lot harder to get the car to be accepted. Unless you buy the 500 Mondial that is for sale at Simon Kidston's.

Please remember when you buy a car for this event:

1. 375 places in total
2. Members of car club Brescia - 20 or so places? Maybe more, not sure
3. Mercedes and State of Art - 30 cars each or so

That leaves 290 places for around 1400 inscriptions (maybe more this year).

4. MM historic entries have priority
5. Expensive cars have priority (Bugattis, Alfa's, Ferrari's)
6. Rare, out of the ordinary, cars have priority
7. Pre-1953 cars have priority, particularly pre-War.
8. Previous MM Storica (Revival) have priority
9. People that know people have priority
10. Famous people have priority

If you buy a car that ticks boxes 4, 5, 6, and 7 you have a good chance. Much better if you can tick box 8. And there's a caveat in box 6: I believe that they mix and match the rare cars. If you have an AC Bristol you may enter one year but not the next, when they focus on Moretti's or Zanussi's.

As an example of how hard it can be, I know of people that entered an Alfa 6c-1750, 1929 I think, and didn't get in.


Onno

 

couple of friends have entered a Austin Healey 100S.wonder if they will get a run.

 

It looks like the blue car at FJ meets 6 and 7 of Onno's list-- and it's light and powerful to boot. A different color scheme would go a long way to make the car sexier-- and so exotic with the deDion and the inboard drum brakes.

john

 

Have you looked at last year's entry list or the photos ? Anything goes : last year there were 360 / BBi / 512TR / 456 for example with which you may be familiar and appear to come under the latter !

"The participating cars will be divided into two classifications: cars built between 1958 and 1981, the so-called Classiche, and cars built from 1982 until today. "

 

Bearing in mind the budget, what about a Lancia Aurelia or Bristol 400/401?

Ed

 

Hi Onno, do you think this means there will be no more replicas in the Ferrari MM tribute? Last year's undisclosed fake TdF was the only thing I disliked about it.

+1!

+1

 

Agreed, but I would add that a MM historic entry (#4) practically guarantees acceptance. There is no such guarantee with previous MM revival participation (#8), but chances of acceptance are very good.

Of course, #9 and #10 are the trump cards. Use em if you have them.

 

I think it will make it much harder for such cars to be admitted. Of course, making the certification a requirement, also makes it a problem for Ferrari. If they admit a car, they will have to concede it was certified because it is very much in the public eye. So, in this way, I think that it will virtually guarantee quality entries only. Even without certification as a requirement last year, I think Ferrari must be aware of the complaints on the "TdF" participating, and I do think they take that seriously. Naturally, it will also sometimes mean that perfectly good cars will not be accepted because of a non-standard exhaust or something like that.

Thinking about it, I never really believed that certification may increase the price of your classic Ferrari. But it may be in future that, like for MM cars, having participated in the Tribute might start to do that, with buyers being aware that a) the car will have been scrutinised, and b) the car likely to be accepted again in a future MM Tribute.


Onno

 

Agreed - I didn't formulate that so well but I'm supposed to be working so be glad I put at least some effort into it.

Onno

 

I don't know-- you'll get back what you spend buying when you go to sell it, especially with recent MM history. A cheaper car will still be cheap when you go to sell, and probably a harder sell at that.