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Hybrid Voltage Battery Fail * Car will not start *

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  1. BG259

    BG259 Karting

    Aug 20, 2009
    152
    UK
    Has anyone had this fault come up and the car not start? The car will open, ignition comes on but the red warning for high voltage battery comes on. The car will not start in any mode. The car was plugged in at the time and had a full battery. It now shows empty and will not charge the battery.

    I know a few people have had issues like this.

    What did Ferrari do to fix the fault?
     
  2. Cool Runnin'

    Cool Runnin' Karting

    Apr 13, 2008
    144
    FL
    My dealer told me that there were issues with early delivery cars but that they had been addressed/remedied, whatever that means. Have you contacted your dealer?
     
  3. BG259

    BG259 Karting

    Aug 20, 2009
    152
    UK
    This is a July 23 build car, GTS. The dealer is aware, waiting for Ferrari Assistance to get the car to them. It is currently stuck in my garage!!
     
  4. isuk

    isuk F1 Rookie

    Nov 11, 2005
    3,317
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    Iain
    If it's in your garage and it still has power then either put the windows down or leave the driver's door open in case of a total power failure before the Ferrari Assist operator gets to you. Make sure you have the emergency folding metal key to hand and not in the car just in case the car dies totally and the doors are closed. You will need that key to get into it.

    It should have a lead acid battery being a July 23 build so the breakdown guy may be able to jump start it. If it won't start then it's a case of going into the toolkit in the frunk and getting out the special tool to put the gearbox into neutral then pushing the car out so it can be winched on to a recovery truck. The fault codes will have to be cleared down one by one which can only be done at the dealership I believe as part of a diagnostic check. They will then be able to put the car back on charge and top up the high voltage battery. They will likely want you to put your battery charger in the car if it is recovered to the dealer so they can check it.

    My GTB did the same thing but it also fully discharged the 12V battery as well. It sounds like you have managed to catch yours before it got to that point.
     
  5. Cool Runnin'

    Cool Runnin' Karting

    Apr 13, 2008
    144
    FL
    What was the reason your 12V battery discharged?
     
  6. isuk

    isuk F1 Rookie

    Nov 11, 2005
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    I don't know and neither did the dealership. They cleared the fault codes, charged it up overnight and it didn't happen again.
     
  7. Cool Runnin'

    Cool Runnin' Karting

    Apr 13, 2008
    144
    FL
    Wow that's kind of scary. How can someone confidently take the car anywhere when something like that happens? SHEESH
     
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  8. BG259

    BG259 Karting

    Aug 20, 2009
    152
    UK
    My car was absolutely fine on Saturday. I used it for about 4 miles. Parked it up (at full hybrid charge), placed the tender on and closed the garage. On the Sunday evening I started to get Ferrari APP alerts: "high voltage battery fail, Stop the car safely".

    The car was inside my garage for around 24 hours on the tender. The car will not start. The app shows 0miles and a red sign where it normally shows a green sign for the plug in tender.
     
  9. Cool Runnin'

    Cool Runnin' Karting

    Apr 13, 2008
    144
    FL
    That's crazy. Seriously.
     
  10. sss123

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  11. isuk

    isuk F1 Rookie

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    Have you tried disconnecting the charger, lock the car and wait for it to power down fully (switch it off and wait at least 5 minutes for every dash light to go out) then plug the charger back in and switch it on at the wall? If it accepts a charge the dash should power up and the charger will have two flashing blue lights. I doubt it will make a difference if the car is displaying the various fault messages you described earlier but worth a try. I was told that if the car detects a power spike via the charger it will protect itself by discharging power back into the grid via the charger and wall socket hence why the high voltage battery becomes totally discharged.
     
  12. BG259

    BG259 Karting

    Aug 20, 2009
    152
    UK
    no not like this.

    mine says Hybrid Failure.

    there are also weird noises going on under the car. The Hybrid system is trying to do something and not completing it.
     
  13. Cool Runnin'

    Cool Runnin' Karting

    Apr 13, 2008
    144
    FL
    If that's the case then maybe the charger should be plugged into a surge protector?
     
  14. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

    Nov 27, 2015
    895
    Mobile Alabama
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    William M (B.J.) Lyon, Jr.
    Definitely not confidence inspiring--these brick episodes keep happening----first the SF90 and now the 296. I live 300 miles from the dealer, ugh. My car will be delivered end of first quarter 2024 if I am extremely lucky.
     
  15. bamaman

    bamaman Formula Junior

    Nov 27, 2015
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    We have an auxiliary generator to provide emergency power to my house, since we live in an area with frequent hurricanes,. It powers up for 15 minutes one day a week, which means that a momentary power loss and power spike is created as it takes over the power. I wonder if this will set upset the 296 power charger or cause the car's system an issue? Any thoughts would be appreciated.
     
  16. Dino_Argento

    Dino_Argento Formula Junior

    Sep 22, 2017
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    I think this could very much be part of it. The whole electrical system seems very sensitive to the stability/ quality of the power supply and may well be shutting itself down to protect itself and then throwing up the faults. It is a mad situation with a car this expensive. Keep it off the charger and drive it regularly and see if that helps.
     
  17. isuk

    isuk F1 Rookie

    Nov 11, 2005
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    I'd ask your dealer for advice. Perhaps fitting a surge protection wall socket would help or disconnect your car on the day the generator cycles through it's test power up. My dealer advised me to keep my car plugged in when not in use but with the app you can see when the high voltage battery is dropping in power and then plug the car in and charge it back up for a few hours. It will be better for owners who drive their cars infrequently when Ferrari roll out the app in the US. The app appears to update a couple of times a day and it will send alerts to your phone if the system drops below a certain level.
     

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