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How to repair a scratch or two properly question

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  1. PSk

    PSk F1 World Champ

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    I've managed to scratch my 2012 Mazda 6 ... errrrrrrrr on the passenger front door. There is absolutely no dent and I have not even gone through to the metal (thankfully).

    I have obtained touch up paint from Mazda so the colour (graphite) will be exact and here is what I intend to do ... do you agree?:

    1. wash door thoroughly with water only, at least a couple of times
    2. Dry door thoroughly with shammy and towel
    3. Apply prepsol to the scratches (yes there are a couple, all very minor)
    4. Towel off prepsol as normal
    5. Apply touch up paint in the scratches
    6. Leave to dry
    7. Using a clean rag wrapped around a sanding block flatten the touch up paint with cutting compound, ensuring I rub horizontally only
    8. If scratches are still indented, clean off rubbing compound and repeat from step 3 until touch up areas are flat and level with existing paint
    9. Thoroughly polish whole door also ensuring I only rub horizontally

    What do you think? Right approach, any recommendations?
    Pete
     
  2. ncjetskier

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    Your method may be correct. But I would trust a demonstration on UTUBE more than mere suggestion on a forum. That way could can see (in detail) what to do. Just my opinion.
     
  3. PSk

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    Heck I'd never thought of that. Thanks I'll do a search when I get home.
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    #5 roadracer311, Feb 13, 2014
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    I use a blob eliminator. A company called Dr. Colorchip makes one.

    Here's another blob eliminator:
    LANGKA The Blob Eliminator : Amazon.com : Automotive
    I've used this one often in my motorcycle shop.

    Having tried both; I like the blob-eliminator approach a lot better than sanding, because it's much easier on the surrounding paint. It's also faster to get back to a polished finish.
     
  6. PSk

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    I can't work out what the Blob Eliminator is???
    Anything that makes it easier sounds good to me :)
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  7. Dan Kyle

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    I hope you are not in a hurry and take the time to learn more.

    If the scratch is only thru the clear and not the colored paint

    And it is not too wide touching it up with Clear will bring the color out and may be all you need

    Perhaps posting a picture of the scratches would help

    I would not use 1000 grit sandpaper on it, unless you are trying to sand the scratches off, and even then I would start with Much finer sand paper, you can always go to the 1000 if needed, but once you use 1000 you are committed to a depth to get rid of the scratches the 1000 will make.
     
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    #8 PSk, Feb 14, 2014
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    Not in a hurry, but would like to get this sorted. I have already contacted a car detailer and he said he could not fix it but has given me a number of a guy who would paint the door.

    The scratch is not to the metal but through the colour paint, so the paint needs to be built up.

    Regarding the 1000 grit, I was simply going on what Popular Mechanics stated. I was going to use cutting compound as that surely is finer. I've attached a photo:
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  9. roadracer311

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    That's a tricky one. Easy ones are deep, but over a small area. Large shallow ones are hard to fill, because the touch up paint tends to come back out, as you're trying to smooth it.

    Getting back to your question. A blob eliminator is used to flatten out the blob you get when you fill a chip with paint. It's a chemical that softens the touch up paint, but not the car paint. Again, it doesn't work well for shallow scratches though.

    I agree with Dan, that clear might be the trick, if the scratch hasn't gone through to the primer. You'd be amazed how big white scratches can turn back to body color, when clear coat is applied (only in cases where the scratch doesn't reach the bottom of the paint).

    This is one of the easier clear coat applicators I've found, for quick repair of shallow scratches.
    Amazon.com: DuPont D101 Pro-Fusion Scratch Repair and Sealer Pen - Clear: Automotive
     
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    You can get micromesh sandpaper to 8000 grit. Micro-Mesh makes a nice kit. My kit is the KR-70 and is utilized esp. for aircraft acrylic and plastics My current kit goes to 6000 grit. Much safer than any polish or cutting material. Can purchase from Finishing Products,Inc., 1217 West Third Street, Wilton,IA USA 52778. Phone 800-225-3006

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  12. godabitibi

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    When you've clean the scratch and applied touch-up paint make sure to let it dry for a while. Paint will sink in the scratch. Buit it up but be patient before refinishing it. It you polish it too early the scratch will show up again when the paint sink.

    I use an absolutly flat piece of aluminium as a block with 1500 grit wetsand to cut it up and finish with 2000 grit. I've even use super fine piece of file with edges grinded to make sure to be flat applying minimum of pressure. A sanding block is soft and may create low spot around your fill up while sanding.

    This is art!
     
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    Please show a before and after comparison once you complete the repair. I'm sure there are others besides myself that would love to have an instructional, along with real world results!
     
  14. roadracer311

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    The video surprised me
    That a) anyone would take on such a large scratch, especially on a black car
    and b) how not-fixed it looked when it was done.
    Not saying I could have done better, but I'll bet the Mercedes ended up getting re-sprayed after it was all said and done.
     
  15. PSk

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    Haven't had time or the weather to contemplate fixing it yet. If I can spend some more time putting up shelves in my newly extended shed (this weekend?) then I'll be able to get this car into the shed for repairs ... far better than out on the driveway, in the wind, etc.
    Pete
     
  16. Designstar

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    The professional way to do it would be to either tape to the edge of the scratch as Larry did but instead to using a bristle brush to fill, you use an air brush to lay in thin coats. Or depending on the type of scratch, lay the air brush coats on until the scratch is filled, then compound and/or clay bar the overspray to create the blend without taping.

    Larry did state that his attempt was a sort of "hail marry pass" at fixing it. The air brush method would have worked much better especially with Larry's skills at paint correction.

    The type of airbrush I'm talking about is what a fine artists would use, not a paint gun like you would use to paint a fender. If you are going to be sanding you're probably going to need a dual action polisher or similar tool to get the sanding marks out and bring the gloss back. Not sure if that was in the original posters action plan.

    Good luck!
     
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    #17 PSk, Feb 25, 2014
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    Okay I gave it a go and in some light now you cannot see it at all. If I had more time I would have another go from what I have learnt. I used my steps and I think the only thing I did wrong was not stopping earlier with the cutting compound.

    In the end the scratch is still visible but instead of being white, it is now grey. I think if I had stopped with the cutting compound a few strokes earlier it would look better. Results below ...
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