GT2RS is not officially limited but for all practical reasons is. The production capacity (about 5-6 cars per day) and limited time frame (until this Fall) puts the cap at around a 1k units.
Congrats on the 3rs. Love to see the pics when it comes in. Reason for taking the 3rs over the 2 rs? I read you were a 991 turbo s guy previously...
I hope you're right. I was told out here we may see 50 or so of the 2rs and same with 3rs. Would have preferred if it were less. PS sorry for the OT OP. Would love to know our real numbers on Pista.....
Final post about Porsche GT cars since that's not really the topic of this thread. From someone at the factory for pick-up: That's a lot of GT cars if they keep it up. Not saying there isn't massive demand, but it definitely doesn't sound like they are skimping on supply. 100+ GT cars per day is a lot. 992 isn't scheduled to debut until Nov 2018, so I'd expect continued GT production for quite some time still. Bodes well for those who don't have allocation yet, if you ask me.
Hope the Porsche lovers can migrate their discussion to a porsche forum, not continue to co-opt this one
I think that's the gist of this thread. It depends on the market and the US is arguably one of the hardest markets to get cars. It historically has had some of the lowest prices and the highest volume. And as far as all exotics go, I think the US sees some of the lowest mileage and "best" kept cars, which also IMO contributes negatively to the ease of getting cars.
Yes the US is different but for Pista all allocations are sold out for UAE unlike the speicale which was sitting in the showroom. Sent from my iPhone using Tapatalk
918 vips were well aware of the rules which have remained the same from the start. Porsche dealers have accepted deposits but have not promised allocations they don't have. ADM isn't a bribe. Buying Cayenne/Panamera Turbos isn't a good way to start, as racing Porsches w/ PMNA is more effective. Porsche doesn't have an official point system. The stipulations of your so called 918/VIP owners are fake. The manufacturer won't buy back the car within any time frame.
The previous gen wasn't limited and the current gt2rs isn't limited either. People appreciate just as much like the "true limited production cars"
Not many people paid $500K for a 911R and they aren't suckers. They bought it because they wanted to, not to speculate. The manual GT3 isn't a standard option. It is a option. .1RS didn't flood eBay etc. and sit on them asking ridiculous prices forever. Porsche would rather sell cars to customers as they will receive other benefits. Lots are taking deliveries of GT3s, but that is because those who take deliveries of Macans don't post about it. It does appear to slow down. Europe won't be getting more.
GT cars are one year only. GT cars will be less than regular cars, and Leipzig is another production location.
Flippers caused a revised program with newer models. One of the projected revised terms according to CJ Wilson, was potentially extending the current term of ownership to 18 months for GT/RS owners to fight flippers. Oh? It very much is treated as such. This person was selected for a 911R order, but was told he'd have to buy it at market price if he wanted it. Porsche won't let dealers tack ADM onto 918 VIP owners, so they get what they can out of everyone else. Most owners have no intention or time to go racing with Porsche. Because the VIP Program only exists in the states. That doesn't stop the dealers. Oh, so 918 VIP owners don't get first dibs on everything? And there's no rules regarding ownership including first refusal? And here I was reading direct from folks who owned a 918, own a Porsche dealership, or any other sort of involvement with buying a special model saying otherwise.
Am I on the wrong chat group??. Is this a Porsche thread or are we talking about the Pista here? Enough with the Porsche discussions... Does anyone know how many Pistas they are going to make as far as production numbers?? For example compared to the Speciale..
Seems there are different situations worldwide, apparently Ferrari did not spread the allocations proportionally to the local demands. The US seems to be the worst case for customers (but maybe the best case for wannabe flippers ) while in Europe the demand exceeds the expected supply, but not by a huge margin.
Some (unconfirmed, as far as I understand) numbers have been circulated here, they are higher than the guessed Speciale numbers and even more so for the Aperta (which will not be "number limited" for the Pista). For the Speciale / Aperta the production numbers were probably between 2500 and 3000 for the Speciale, and 499 for the Aperta; what's expected is around 3000 to 3500 for the Pista and around 1000 for the Pista spider (whatever it will be called). These numbers include a few hundreds of "limited" edition models.
Maybe some have taken the Porsche situation a bit too far (and perhaps personal) but the context and relevance to Pista's allocation scenarios' and how it isn't unique in that regard - to how buyers are being handled in general. Some are just being too sensitive and intolerant for some reason. Calling out incorrect info or statements, where one deems them to be incorrect, surely isn't a crime?
The number of Pista allocations is equivalent to the number of Specialedelivered in France particularly at POZZI ( 38 allocations, 150 for France) so we can imagine the same production of Pista is 2500 to 3000 Pista over two years of production
When you want to buy something, customers are told "demand is more than supply", but turn around and sell that same item back 5 minutes later, they will moan about demand being soft.
Ferrari will not reduce Pista allocations when compared to 458 Speciale, expect a slight increase as Ferrari has increased ANNUAL production by more than 20% since 458 Speciale release. Do you think markets like China weren't around 3 years ago when 458 Speciale was released? That "all increased production only going to new markets" is opportunistic talk. YoY results matter a ton now that Ferrari is publicly listed. Look at their stock since.
maybe the way to think about this is how many Pistas will be available in YOUR country. In ALL of the Americas Ferrari is reducing supply. Why? More cars to Asia.