How can I tell if tires have flat spots or broken belts?

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  1. htb3

    htb3 Formula Junior

    May 30, 2005
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    It sounds like I have a flat spot on my tires because it makes a weird noise that is speed (not RPM) dependant. Left the car sitting for about 6 months without driving it that much until February. However, it just started recently, or I just noticed that it makes a whomp, whomp, whomp, sound the faster I go. The car seems to handle ok, it's just that the noise is annoying.

    Can any tire place check out the tires to see if they are flat spotted or if a belt broke, or would I need to go to a place that has a specialized balancing machine? The tires look ok, and I dont think any wheel weights fell off. If a shock went bad, wouldnt it be really noticeable? I didnt see any sign of oil on the struts when I took the tires off to check them.
     
  2. exotic.33.cars

    exotic.33.cars Karting

    Jul 10, 2010
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    You can't really see flat spotting, you may be able to see a broken belt if you dismount the tire, but you may not see it. If you take your tires off and roll them along your garage floor, you should see the tire roll nice and straight, if it has a wobble, then you have an issue with that tire.
     
  3. paulie_b

    paulie_b F1 Veteran
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    Jan 13, 2003
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    sounds like a flat spot.
     
  4. htb3

    htb3 Formula Junior

    May 30, 2005
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    I took them off and the rear tires are wobbling a little. They are about 3 years old and have 10,000 miles on them. Changed rims and tires to an old spare set that is dry rotted and 7 years old that I keep as a backup in case of a flat and it still makes the noise but not quite as bad, however, one of the spares tires wobbled too.

    Talked to my old next door neighbor that owns a tire shop for semi trucks, and he said that he has a high speed balancer for cars in his shop since he also does passenger cars for commercial accounts. So tommorrow, I am taking the wheels there and seeing if they are in balance.
     
  5. oss117

    oss117 F1 Rookie

    Jan 26, 2006
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    If the noise you hear is speed dependent, then you probably have a scalloped tread.
    This is usually caused by some wear in the bushings of the suspension or, in some cases, it happens with tires that are not congenial with a certain type of car.
    A scalloped tread is not difficult to see, if you look at the tire from the side and against the light.
    You may also feel it, if you run your hand on it in the direction opposite to the rolling direction.
     
  6. htb3

    htb3 Formula Junior

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    #6 htb3, Jun 4, 2011
    Last edited: Jun 4, 2011
    Found the problem.

    The wheel in question had a very small amount of runoff on it. Dont know how this happenned since I never hit or ran anything over anything. But the main problems was that all the tires were out of balance. The fronts were only off by 1/4 of an ounce after the weights were taken off, but the rears were off a lot- one was off by 3.5 ounces- That's like adding a quarter pounder to your wheel!

    Instead of adding all that weight, we took the tire and rotated it around on the rim so that the least amount of weight would be added. It took a while to do this, because we had to find out how what weights were needed on the inside and outside area, and then mark it and then rotate the tire around so that the heavy section of the tire would offset where weights needed to be added. After doing this the wheel in question only needed .75 ounces of weight to be added.

    I put the tires on and now the problem is solved!
     

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