HORRIBLE holiday accident pcar 241 fwy!

My prayers go out to this family for their loss. Another reason where professional track training could have prevented this incident. Unfortunately, training won't change immaturity and bad judgment.

Brad

 

This toll road is only 2 lanes one either side with a large unpaved median in the middle. The area she hit is an on ramp that has a small both where the toll collector sits. Here in Cali you also have a 'fast track' sticker that allows you to by-pass the toll collector individual. She literally would have had to hit the car, cross a 50 ft median, then cross 2 lanes of oncoming traffic, and then hit the back of the booth. This road is not heavily traveled and except for the hours of 1700-1800 is pretty empty.

After seeing this I immediately went to my 18 year-old and told her never to drive above the speed limit again.
When you are young, we think we are invicible and that nothing will ever happen to us. These pictures tell of a life taken.

 

with that said, makes you think there should be some sort of speed lock out device that allows a parent to inhibit the car from reaching those speeds.

 

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That's really sad tragedy. I feel bad for the girl but it must be devastating to the family. Then again, fatal traffic accidents happen on a daily basis, but without seeing some graphic pictures sometimes we forget how fragile life is.

 

IMO it's morbid that these pics are floating around here or anywhere. It's of little use preventing someone from speeding in future and only serves as sadistic portrayal of someone's terrible misfortune. I vote for deleting them as they have done on other P-boards.

 

+1,000,000!

I think people can get the jist of the severity of the crash from the photos of the wreckage. There's no need for anyone to see the photos of that poor girl, and I'm appalled that they haven't been deleted already.

 

From what I understand the girl had had a few drinks. She took the keys to her dad's car without his permission and he had already called the police while she was driving it. The car wasn't hers! Every post I see about this says that the car was the 18 year old girl's which wasn't the case. Still sad. Alcohol+cars = NO.

 

This is tragic. I understand how people are wanting the pics to be removed and I have no preference. One thing is for sure - after witnessing those pics, I am sure to tell people I know who speed in traffic to think twice! My condolences to any family that has to deal with that situation.

 

I think the pictures are tough to look at and tough to forget. After seeing them I will try my best to be more careful.

 

Strange... from what I heard the girl was drunk and took dads car without permission and went out (her dad called to report car missing, and a neighbor also called the police when she sped down the street at 60mph+).

 

I agree with the suggestion above to delete these pictures (I only saw one but that was enough). At least someone should black-out the opened brain part. For God's sake, we cover up nipples on this website!
I am a pathologist who do autopsies for a living so nothing grosses me out, that is until this picture! It just caught me by complete surprise as I sit here comfortably in my own home on this Sunday afternoon.
I don't think we should pass this gruesome picture along any further, out of respect for the victim and her family. Who knows, some of her family or friends might be here on F-Chat.

 

Thank you those comments, some people have no sense of decorum!

 

I agree.
Initially I thought they might slow down a person or two and the benefit justified their posting. But after seeing them yesterday, and having a 18 year-old, I think they should be removed.
The poor family.

 

rip
ps
anyone who looked was warned

 

Ahh, that is pretty graphic.

 

First off i agree that it is an extremely tragic accident, but what car doesnt go 100+ mph? No matter what car a parent buys their child it has the ability these days to hit 100+. You cant blame it on the car as to the reason she crashed, it was the drivers fault. As a 19 year old I had access to a friends 911 and was smart enough not to mess around at top speeds while other cars were around. But yes the 911 does go 160mph I know.

 

I'm not so sure I agree. I, myself, am 18, and have access to my father's cars (Porsche, etc.) with permission. Though I consider myself fairly responsible, I have pushed the car a fair amount above the speed limit (although not close to what this girl was going), and these pictures have made me reconsider my, what could be called spirited, driving. They were the most graphic things I have ever seen, and they really drove the point home. I think they should be included in Driver's Education training while in high school, because they surely have affected my driving habits.

 

Oh my gosh, now that is graphic ......May her soul rest in peace.......you can try to prevent things as much as possible but as with this case, the girl pretty much defied everything and went out on her own demise.

My condolences to the friends and family of this pretty girl.
I think it would be better to not show these pictures out of respect for the family.

 

I will not comment as to whether or not the pics should stay, as their are compelling arguments for both cases. But, the definition of graphic is certainly ambiguous and I think the original poster should edit a stronger warning about just how graphic those pictures are.

However, I will say that they undoubtedly prevent people from speeding. Seeing a mangled car or hearing someone died has nowhere near the impact those pictures do. Seeing a person in that kind of condition, while terrible, is an infinately more emotional experience than seeing a mangled car. I bet most of the people who looked at those pictures nearly gagged, while no one probably could say that of a car at a junkyard. That real sense of fear and sadness carries more weight than the simple thought that you might die in a car crash.

As far as the car being a Porsche, I think that's somewhat irrelevant. Rich or poor, Camry or Porsche, that accident could have occured regardless. Yes it is easier to hit 100 in a Porsche, but it's even easier in a run of the mill Mustang. Wreckless driving and high speeds can happen in ANY modern (and even some older) vehicles.

RIP. Definately a horrible accident. Condolences to the family of course.

 

I think pictures like this should be shown to teenagers, although the names must be protected.
It is images like this that the BBC put on tv that stopped me ever taking drugs.
So many mistake here, alcohol, hi speed, covertible, lack of experience etc, etc, teach you kids well, and get them a small car with no power.
May the poor girl RIP and the parents never see these pictures!

 

Those pictures are horrible...I truly hope the family is never exposed to them, so they may remember her in better times.

As to address the issue of the girl taking her father's car keys - Whatever happened to the use of biometrics in cars? You see it utilized in many areas these days including laptops, where you have to place your thumb on a pad to authorize use. I assume that biometrics was explored for use in automobiles to prevent theft, carjacking, etc. Does anyone know what the status of this technology for cars is? This could have prevented this unfortunate accident from happening...

 

Amen - when I hear graphic, I picture car carnage, maybe a bit of 'red' and a yellow sheet. Not the way it was presented.

Anyway, graphic is an understatement - really, really bad.

 

As someone already mentioned, the car did not belong to the girl, it belonged to her father. She had some drinks, snatched the keys and well, there is the end result. 18 years old and gone.

Why all the indignation however? Whenever an Enzo gets wrecked and the last one was in Nice France, it's a whole lot of "RIP" and "I hope they'll be OK". I see no difference between an 18 year old making that kind of error and a 50+ year old making that kind of error. If anything it's less acceptable when a mature adult screws up like that since he/she should know better. Do we need to spell out the reason the military sends 18 year olds to war and not 50 year olds.