Historic license plate owners in Cali, heads up!

I will see about this as I'm about to renew my reg. for my historical plate either tomorrow at my local AAA insurance office or Monday. Stay tune.

 

Strange, no such issues here. renewed online after the new yr and got the 2015 tags.

 

Oh, this isn't good. I don't have the plates but I know several people who do and just exactly for the smog exemption.

I'm going to guess that a whole lot of 1975 and after Historical Plated cars are about to become a lot less historical when their smog checks come up.

 

It sounds like it was an adminstrative mistake. California registered cars back to 1975 have been required to have smog checks all along... otherwise everyone would have historic plates for their old beaters.

 

Vehicle Industry News VIN 2012–12 Historical Vehicle Smog Exemption
New Information
Vehicles that are 1976 year-model and newer assigned Historical Vehicle License Plates are not exempt from smog requirements based on designation as a historical or collector vehicle.
Permanent exemption from smog requirements is based on the year-model of the vehicle (i.e. manufactured prior to 1976 year-model) and other specified criteria, and not the license plate assigned to the vehicle.
However, if a historical or collector vehicle (regardless of the license plates assigned to it) is at least 35 years old, the vehicle is exempt from certain portions of the smog test as required by the California Health and Safety Code, provided the vehicle meets the specified criteria.
Procedures
Refer customers who inquire about a smog exemption to contact the Bureau of Automotive Repair (BAR) at www.bar.ca.gov or to call the BAR number at 1-800-952-5210.
Background
Vehicles assigned Historical Vehicle License Plates were incorrectly being exempt from smog certification requirements.
References
California Vehicle Code §§259, 4000.1, 5051, and 5004 California Health and Safety Code §§43002, 44011, and 44012(f) Vehicle Industry Registration Procedures Manual §21.090
Distribution
Notification that this memo is available online, at www.dmv.ca.gov under Publications was made via California DMV’s Automated E-mail Alert System in April 2012.
Contact
Call the DMV Customer Communications Section, at (916) 657-6560 for further clarification of this memo. Upon request, this document can be produced in Braille or large print.
JEAN SHIOMOTO, Acting Deputy Director Communication Programs Division


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I LOVE CA!

 

For everyone else :

www.semasan.com/Emissions



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I love California; a great place to visit when on short trips. Moved out of CA a few years ago (my GTB could not pass CA smog again if it tried). Now I live in wonderful AZ; a state that loves old cars. Have a Historical Vehicle now with no smog requirements. Sorry about your problem and can only say one thing, move.

 

OK, so now the Historical Plates do have value for cars 1975-1979. I wonder which portions of the smog test are exempted? The sniffer or the visual or what?

 

Could be the phase of the moon or how close to a power nexus you live after all it's California.


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Understand about the moving part. It is hard to pick-up the bus., family, and all the stuff. Maybe when your older (just do not sell the car). We fly the plane (SWA) to San Diego and Orange County all the time. Faster than driving from the old La Quinta home on the 55 and 405.

 

Yeah, anyone have any info on what portions will be exempted?

 

Agreed.

This smog requirement has been exempt for 1975 and before.

1976 and after were never exempted and those fortunate enough to have been flying historical plates under the smog re'qment radar have basically been 'getting away with it' till some bureau-crap enforced the regs.

I am sad for you my carberatori bretheren. Bummer Max.

 

BUMP!

So have any of you historic plate owners been required to pass smog on your latest renewal?

 

I'm from the NYC area. Most state inspections are done by private service stations. Depending upon the year of the car the inspection might include a smog test. Sometimes these service stations, they make a mistake and when they perform the inspection on let's say an older Ferrari, they accidentally put the smog sensor into the tail pipe of the Honda Accord parked next to the Ferrari. Or sometimes the smog sensor slides out of the Ferrari's tail pipe and falls onto the floor, just under the Ferrari's tail pipe. We tend to tip these guys heavy because we know how hard they try to perform the inspections for us.

Don't you guys on the left coast have similar, car friendly service stations where you can get the smog tests done?

 

I used to know a few Boston shops that didn't require the car to be present.

 

I just renewed my registration with Historical Plate last month and, NO smog require.

 

Some states actually enforce their laws and close businesses and in some cases actually put people in jail.

The State Department of Consumers Affairs and its division, The Bureau of Automotive Repair have become very Nazi like. They have traditionally been self funded by license fees and fines. In the states fiscal crisis they are being squeezed to be revenue generators so the enforcement isn't like we have ever seen it. Add to that the enviro Nazis running the Air Resources Board which makes rules and oversees the smog test program the risks to do that for the benefit of someone else really requires a truly stupid individual. It is risking a lot just so some self centered ******* can bypass a law.

 

y'all, meaning pointed headed regulators, stay the hell away from South Carolina...

 

We have a new mayor here in NYC, not many people go to jail anymore, the cops are no longer allowed to arrest suspects. I don't support breaking the law, but it's hard to have patience for hypocrisy, especially for areas of the government that are simply there to generate revenue.

I'd bet, even sitting here 3000 miles away, that the further south in California someone drives, the more likelihood they are to find an abundance of late 70's vans and panel trucks on the road that have no business being used at all because they are very dangerous. Bald tires, serious emissions, no working lights, crooked frames and suspensions, etc, and maybe a dozen people riding in them. They are far more offensive to the environment and to public safety as a whole than our 1500 mile a year driven Ferrari's that spit out a teaspoon more CO2 than the rules say they should.

They'd probably bust yous a$$ Brian for letting one mid-70s 308 skirt by an emissions test sooner than they'd bother to look into any service station in south LA that's performing back door inspections. But that's where you need to go. Ferrari of Beverly Hills isn't going to help any 308 owner pass emissions, but the guy downtown will. Don't know if it's just a NYC thing or not to be matter-of-fact about this, but that's just the way some stuff works.

 

Aren't you restricted in where you can drive with Historical plates? I thought only for parades or such. I can't be bothered to take my ferrari in so i have a very very close friend smog it for me. You can do a statement of facts stating the car is out of state. They can, if they want, override the smog test, but they will mail the tags to the out of state address. Who knows what the laws are now. If your car will pass equipment check, as mine does not. Just put a gal of Denatured Alcohol in a quarter tank. It will pass. PS good to see you back Brian. I got a question about belts................JOKING!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Last time i dealt with a State Enhanced Smog Station was with my limo, failed because it puffed a little smoke when he blipped the throttle. Had to change the oil again. Passed.