Heritage Certificate

Are you refering to this?
http://www.ferrari.com/English/Services/Ferrari_Classiche_dept/Pages/Certification.aspx

You can also speak to the folks at Ferrari of Denver on the Classiche program.

 

Jim, the last I heard of this certificate being issued was for carbed cars only. Since then I think Ferrari has curtailed the process and replaced it with the Classiche Program. Welcome to the new Ferrari,, the Heritage Cert was free now they want 500 Euro just to see if you paperwork is order to take it to the next level, Classiche, after spending as much as 5,000 Euro.

 

It was discountinued years ago...

They'll verify colors now (exterior/interior) on a letterhead.

Other than that, Classiche is now "it".....we could all photoshop your example of course.....

 

I'm sorry, what you posted is the CURRENT color confirmation.

Did you list your VIN in the 'My Garage' section??

I did that, and they send you a note confirming the build date.

The old Certificate required you to enter the engine block code, transmission number everything, as does Classiche now....

But it was free.........

 

Well consider the former free Certificate a bargain - I have a Heritage Certificate for my '66 E-Type, and it wasn't free. It wasn't expensive, but they did charge for their time to search, send, etc. That was reasonable IMHO.

This replacement program sounds ridiculous. 500 Euro?? OUCH!

 

I got one (like your attachment) for my 1981 GTSi, FI Car.

Many thought it was taken down but I still found it but BURIED DEEP on the site.

That was a couple of years ago. If it is actually gone now or still just buried, I don't know.


You needed BOTH your VIN & engine serial # to get the Cert.

 

I have not logged in in a long time....are you sure you are on the Owner's website and not the fan page for F1??

The Owners site has a lot of links on vintage events and such....I'll see if I can LogIn to it...I think I forgot my password...LOL!

 

I vaugely remember where it was. I'll see if I can find it.

 

No longer available. Pulled about the time that Ferrari Classique was created to certify older cars.

 

If the old Jag build records are like the old Triumph ones, the $50 for a heritage certificate is cheap! I had to go back and forth with the guys at the British Motor Heritage Center several times before they got my certificate right. They were always friendly and attentive, but I couldn't understand the problem till I saw a photo of the original build card. Bless those guys, I couldn't read a damn thing on it.

 

+1 with Big Tex, I did however contact Lucy Petrone/FNA about a build sheet for my old 84 GTB and was told it was available for $1000.00us. Decided to pass.

 

Yeah, welcome to the new Ferrari. It's more about making money than anything else.

If I was buying a new Italian supercar, I would be spending my hard earned dollars somewhere else (Lamborghini or Pagani perhaps...) where I don't feel I'm going to get nickle and dimed to death for everything.

 

Folks, I have been in hot pursuit of trying to acquire the Heritage Certificate for my 1982 Ferrari 308. I started by contacting Ferrari in Italy...they referred me to my local dealer (the car was actually purchased new from Hollywood Sports Cars in Beverly Hills, California & lived most of it's life there until I purchased it in 2010 & brought it to Toronto, Canada.) so I contact Beverley Hills Ferrari first, they told me that they maintain no such records & to contact the factory in Italy. I then contacted my local Ferrari dealer in Toronto, they were unsure of what I was requesting & referred me to the Classique Program at a cost of $3,850. I explained to them once again what I was looking for as a single document called the Heritage Certificate verifying build numbers & color combination. The then contacted Ferrari of North America.... apparently they told the Toronto dealer that the Heritage Certificate is no longer available (only for race cars) replaced by Classique Program.

Is this true? Has anyone been able to acquire the Heritage Certificate for their vehicle in the last year? If so it would be great to hear from you!

Regards,
Ron Zeraldo

 

Is there any plan by which you can grab copies of the paperwork that they may have on hand for the car.....build sheets, etc.? I realize that Classiche certification bears the magic pill of bigger profits to FNA

 

What they are telling you is correct (and THEY should klnow!)

It's gone, defunct....no more.

You once could give them the frame, engine and transmission stampings and that would do it.

It's been replaced with a "different process".

The last "Build sheets" were used in the Daytona years, and stopped well before the 308 production. IMO they built them in 'groups" and that's the way the engine/frame numbers were combined. They can tell you if your engine 'series" is correct for that year, and that's about all.

I guess we all should have scraped off the grease when we could....

 

I would not have "passed" with my #22127, the engine exploded under warranty, it's "in the records"....

 

Classiche is so unorganized. My friend has a F40 currently going through the process and it has been 2 months now waiting and waiting and they keep asking for extra photos. Firstly they approved it 3 weeks ago and then 2 days after that they said no, we need more pictures and need a rep from the factory to look at it

Unbelievable, has anyone else here done a classiche on their F40 and how long has it taken??

The car is immac untouched.

 

Hey guys, I figured I'd chime in here. When I bought my 308 in 2001 I contacted FNA and I spoke to Shannon LaBianco, she hooked me up with my Heritage Certificate and it was signed by by Enzo Francisco (sp?) and showed my car's original production date, options, colors and where it was delivered. Its on FNA letterhead. I have it framed. Nowadays I am fairly sure you cannot just contact FNA and get this document.

 

Here's a little history:

Back in 2002, Ferrari set up the Ferrari Owner's website. Among other things it offered (after you registered your car with them) was a build sheet, heritigage cerrificate along with being to download a lot of the owner' manuals and homoligation certificates.

The build sheets were only available for cars up to ~1968 and even those were missing for some cars.

In order to get a build sheet, one had to take pictures of the chassis serial number stamping, internal engine motor number, transmission and differential (or transaxle) serial numbers. Some of these pictures (like the transmission) required disassembly to take them. Once you had the pictures, you entered the numbers and uploaded the pictures. Then if all of the numbers matched what had Ferrari recorded for those original parts, you were able to download the build sheet.

The heritage certificate was offered for carburated cars only and could be obtained just by entering the correct numbers. This contained the original paint and leather colors along with the final factory build date.

The build sheet offer eventually was dropped after a couple of years.

The heritage certificate was replaced by the original vehicle colors document around the time the Classiche department was being set up to offer certifications. I think that they changed the name to prevent confusion with the Classiche certification. The OVC was dropped a few years ago. For awhile, if you could register your car, go back to the owner's site after a week or so and the original colors will be shown with the car in 'My Garage'. However, I just looked at my garage and the original colors are no longer there. So yet another perk of being an owner is gone.

So at this point, I guess that you have to pay the big $ for the Classiche certification. This requires a 500 Euro non-refundable application fee, plus a minimum of €1200 to €5100 for the certification excluding 'special series vehicles'. I have heard that you can have the build sheet included with the certification for an additional fee.

They also have a certification for vehicles of 'historic interest', ala the Breadvan, which can't be certrified since they have been modified after leaving the factory. Same costs.

So you aren't getting anything for free from Ferrari anymore.

BTW, a friend that owned a couple of cars in the 70s said that you used to be able to write the factory, include a $5 bill and they would mail you the build sheet.

PS as you can see from the attached heritage certificate (22nd issued), I've been though the whole gamut. I was also able to get a build sheet back then. However, the quality is poor, scanned in B&W in lo-res, so a lot of text is washed out.
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I don't think anyone would bother to counterfeit a 360 and try to sell it as a 360, there are too many out there to bother (no one would buy it).

However, I do hear stories about how shady operators take more mundane V12 60's vintage Ferraris and turn them into something like 250 GTO's and ask insane comensurate prices.

Does the "classiche" program make any effort to weed out these fakes by really scrutinizing these cars ? Of course the truly dedicated counterfeiter would not dream of submitting his "250GTO" to real Ferrari scrutiny, he would just have his crooked printer friends print up a set of fake Ferrari "Classiche" papers too.

By the way the best I could do (For free) was when I bought my 1982 308 Back in 2006, I was able to get a name and phone number for a nice fellow at FNA, and he was able to tell me that it was sold new by Crown Motors in Tampa FL, and that's about it. You get what you pay for.

BTW, Crown Motors in Tampa is alive and well and selling Jags and Mercedes, but alas, no more Ferraris.