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  1. ScuderiaRossa

    ScuderiaRossa Formula 3
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    IA evidence may crown 2007 champion
    Media claims ahead of the WMSC hearing...
    12/09/07 09:59



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    WMSC to rule on new evidence in spy scandal
    The evidence to be presented at Thursday's World Motor Sport Council could crown the 2007 world champion.

    Italian newspaper La Gazzetta dello Sport described the alleged proof as 'crushing', claiming that McLaren not only knew Ferrari's secrets but actually experimented with implementing some of its rival's technology.

    Britain's The Times claims that the new evidence runs to 166 pages in total, including not only the emails between Pedro de la Rosa and Fernando Alonso, but how they match up with phone and text message traffic between Nigel Stepney and Mike Coughlan.

    Diario As, meanwhile, reported that Lewis Hamilton could be in strife following Max Mosley's warning last Friday that McLaren drivers face the loss of their Super Licences if they do not cooperate with the FIA inquiry.

    The Spanish newspaper claims that the rookie championship leader is cited in the new evidence, but unlike de la Rosa and Alonso did not respond to Mosley's letter.

    Spain's Marca newspaper, meanwhile, said de la Rosa and McLaren are in the clear.



    "They are not spies or informers," a source close to McLaren reportedly told the 'paper.

    "Fernando and Pedro have not accused their team of anything and the team knows this. They are simply witnesses and have acted as such."

    Details of the evidence has probably leaked into the public domain because, last Friday, all 26 members of the World Motor Sport Council received a copy of the dossier.

    It is rumoured that the FIA might even make the 166-page dossier public after the World Council's decision is announced on Thursday.
     
  2. Ambassiatore

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    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
     
  3. Simon^2

    Simon^2 F1 World Champ

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    tic... tock... tic... tock... tic... tock... tic... tock...
     
  4. Ambassiatore

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    hehehehhhheeeee....
     
  5. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    I so can't wait until tomorrow. It is nerve wrecking.
     
  6. ScuderiaRossa

    ScuderiaRossa Formula 3
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    I thought the descriptive, "crushing" was noteworthy. Whatever happens, this season is lost.
     
  7. Ambassiatore

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    ...you mean WON!
     
  8. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    any idea wat time the verdict will be?
     
  9. ScuderiaRossa

    ScuderiaRossa Formula 3
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    Well, I don't think anyone wants to win that way.
     
  10. Formula 1

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    I'm holding my comments in for Thursday.
     
  11. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    Some here apparently would...
     
  12. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    question : IF Mac gets disqualified this season, will they race the remaining races?
     
  13. nopassn

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    indeed... a sad and interesting time for us F1 lovers...
     
  14. dmeyer

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    I don't think anyone here would prefer this to winning outright in a fair battle. However, I would much rather be elevated from second to first because cheaters got caught than be stuck in second behind a team that was proven to be cheating. It's obviously not an ideal situation but what other option is there. I would much rather see Ferrari, or any other team for that matter, win rather than allow McLaren to take the WDC and WCC.
     
  15. Senna3xWC

    Senna3xWC F1 Rookie

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    That is not what I was referring to. What I meant was that there are some here who care only about Ferrari winning and not about the actual racing. Take a look to see who was celebrating after Indy 2005 and who among us were disgusted by the debacle.
     
  16. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Indy was terrible!
     
  17. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    ...and utterly avoidable.
     
  18. labcars

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    LUV IT!!!! Now You KNOW your fingers are involuntarily trying to move that keyboard, right???? LoL. Now, all together, repeat after me, "I'm not gonna.............."
     
  19. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    thats true. i think that whole silly 1 tire rule thing did the damage..
     
  20. labcars

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    Ahhh, but then you did!!!
     
  21. Kami

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    Wow, I just really hate that this season has come to this. Drama aside, there's been some great racing; 2007 will never be remembered for that though. So if I'm understanding this correctly, Hammi could lose his S lisence? I hope not, that kid is an incredible talent. I just really hope F1 bounces back from this next season. This just sickens me.....

    Bring on tomorrow, but I feel like one way or another I'm not going to like the outcome. If McMerc is guilty, and disqualified, Ferrari can cruise control it through the end of the season and everyone's going to argue that it was handed to them. (not sure how I feel about that) and if McMerc is innocent, I won't be happy either because I'm very bitter about the floor issue lol ( I know, petty). Deduct points from McMerc if found guilty, but don't DQ them, I still would like to have some competition in the remainder of the season......
     
  22. Ambassiatore

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    (pointing at Len S)...shame on you len, you see what you made me do?...4 hours, 3 minutes, and 45 seconds without speculating on this matter down the drain...I´m back to rehab!
     
  23. blkprlz

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    Luca would accept the world championship even if it was won in the courts...."To win the world title at the table (rather than on the track) would in any case be a deserved victory because it would have been won in the other case in a way that was not correct, not legal, and not sporting" Feed ME F1 reported this morning.
     
  24. Ambassiatore

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    Cmon gimme a break!

    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
    ...Im not gonna post opinions on FCHAT until after the hearing...
     
  25. tifosi12

    tifosi12 Four Time F1 World Champ
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    Why not? That's what FChat is here for.
     

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