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Discussion in 'United Kingdom' started by michael ward, Apr 19, 2004.

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  1. michael ward

    michael ward Rookie

    Feb 9, 2003
    21
    London
    I am trying to get my F car regisrered here in Uk and keep running into more dead ends that i ever beleived were possibe...Can someone please help me sort this out, i want to drive the car within the next 2 weeks...See below:

    I have had a lot of discussion with the local Ferrari agent over the last couple of days, and as sometimes happens, the story unfolds more. I am now informed that we now have to take the car to them for the ECU unit to be downloaded so that data relative to the mileage etc can be obtained for onward transmission to Ferrari in Italy. Only after this has been done can the local agent place an order for the replacement instrument unit. I am now trying to get the car down to them for this procedure to be carried out as quickly as possible which I hope will be in the next few days. The agent will then place the order in Italy for the new unit which he tells me will be 4 to 6 weeks and that it is unlikely that can be reduced. Once the unit is then supplied to us it will take one to two weeks to get all the remaining paperwork sorted.
     
  2. matkat

    matkat Formula 3

    Mar 18, 2003
    1,840
    Scotland
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    Dave McGuire
    Michael,why do you want to register the car in the U.K.? the reason I ask this is because there is a certain amount of time in which you can still drive with foreign plates(I think it is 3 or 6 months)if my memory serves me correct you were going to arrange uk insurance have you done this? please PM me if you require further info but it maybe a good idea to look at the dvla web-site and see if you can get the definitive answers you need.
    Dave Mc
     
  3. Izza

    Izza Formula 3

    Nov 3, 2003
    1,046
    London
    You also don't need to get mph speedo to get registered in UK. I would recommend using Litchfield imports as they did my car and its paperwork very easily and well. Tel: +44 (0)1242 260406 or www.litimports.co.uk.

    Furthermore, given the mileage you get on the new speedo reflects the data downloaded to Italy the eight week delay (plus your own delay in getting the car back to the dealer with foreigh plates - 3/6 months) is all free mileage!!
     
  4. steve f

    steve f F1 World Champ

    Mar 15, 2004
    12,119
    12cylinder town
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    steve
    sounds to me the ferrari dealer is messing you about cos you aint bought one from them all you need to do is get mot if it 3 years or older and you get the chassis number on the mot then contact your local dvla office and they will do the rest you dont need a uk speedo to do this i have done this with a few motorbikes
     
  5. andrewg

    andrewg F1 Rookie
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    Sep 10, 2002
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    Chester, England
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    AndrewG
    Michael

    Which Port / F dealer is the car at now?

    I've sent a further reply via PM
     
  6. andrewg

    andrewg F1 Rookie
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    Sep 10, 2002
    4,667
    Chester, England
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    AndrewG
    Michael just had a look at this website

    http://www.dvla.gov.uk/vehicles/exptimpt.htm#IMPORTING%20A%20VEHICLE

    The following are the brief rules for importing a car into the UK

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    Home | FAQ Drivers | Vehicles | Forms | What's New | Contact Us | About the Site



    DVLA Homepage>Vehicles
    Vehicle Import & Export
    Imports
    Importing a vehicle

    Registration procedures for independent commercial importers of new vehicles

    Type Approval
    Customs & Excise Registration Forms
    Temporarily Imported Vehicles
    Exports
    Permanent Exports
    Temporary Exports


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    Motorcycle Type Approval
    Since the 17th of June 2003 there has been a change in the way Motorcycles are registered...

    Customers wishing to register motorcycles, tricycles and quadricycles (including quad bikes, sometimes known as ATVs) are required to produce evidence of type approval (TA), unless they meet with an exemption. Current exemptions include:

    Slow vehicles, not designed to exceed 6km/h;

    Vehicles intended for pedestrian control;

    Vehicles intended for use by the physically handicapped;

    Tractors and machines, used for agricultural or similar purposes;

    Vehicles intended for use in competitions, both on and off the road i.e. trial or enduro bikes.
    Vehicles over 10 years old.
    For the vast majority of vehicles, proof will take the form of a Certificate of Conformity (COC's). If a COC is not presented, the other form of acceptable proof is an approval certificate issued under the Single Vehicle Approval Scheme (SVA).

    The reason for the change was the compulsory introduction of a European wide approval scheme for motorcycles (ECWVTA), similar to the existing scheme for cars. If a vehicle does not have a COC and is not exempt from approval, the Single Vehicle Approval Scheme (SVA) exists as an alternative route to approval. The SVA scheme seeks to establish that vehicles comply with UK design and safety standards or equivalent standards. More information on the SVA scheme is available on the Vehicle Operator Services Agency website at www.vosa.gov.uk


    PLEASE NOTE: Motorcycles must either have ECWVTA or Single Vehicle Approval. Without such approval, or an exemption from it, such vehicles cannot be registered in GB.


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    IMPORTING A VEHICLE
    A vehicle which is permanently imported for use in Great Britain must be registered and licensed as soon as possible after it arrives in this country. The vehicle should not be used or kept on public roads until the licensing and registration formalities have been completed. However, if the vehicle needs to have an SVA (see section A "Type Approval") or MOT test in order to be registered, the vehicle may be driven to and from the pre-arranged test appointment. Thereafter, the vehicle must be kept off the road until the registration formalities have taken place. Application for registration should be made to your nearest DVLA Local Office. N.B It is not possible to offer an 'over the counter service'; registration usually takes between 48 to 72 hours.

    A "brand new" vehicle can be driven to GB and registered as "new" provided the vehicle:

    is registered in GB quickly after collection - this is taken to be 14 days but may be extended to one calendar month at peak periods (e.g. prior to 1st March and 1st September)

    Only have reasonable delivery mileage and

    Not have been previously "permanently" registered.
    N.B. UK law requires a vehicle to be UK licenced and registered for road use. To avoid difficulties, importers are advised to transport, rather than drive their vehicles from the port to home or first destination and to keep them off the road until they have been properly licenced and registered.

    For most new vehicles you must present evidence of Type Approval from the supplier or vehicle manufacturer, usually in the form of a Certificate of Conformity. If the vehicle has not been subject to Type Approval it must pass a Single Approval (SVA) Test.

    VEHICLE REGISTRATION

    The following documents will need to be submitted to the DVLA Local Office. (N.B. photocopies are NOT acceptable).

    Completed application form V55/4* (for new vehicles) or V55/5 (for used vehicles).

    A £38 registration fee (if applicable).

    # The required fee for the licence.

    A current British certificate of insurance.

    Foreign registration document and any other papers you have relating to the vehicle.

    Evidence showing the date the vehicle was collected (normally the invoice from the supplier).

    Evidence of type approval.

    The appropriate Customs and Excise form.

    A current British MOT test certificate (if applicable).

    A Declaration of Newness (if applicable).


    Documentation confirming your name and address (view acceptable documentation)



    *The V55/4 form has been introduced to distinguish between new and used vehicles coming forward for registration.

    # Please make cheques, postal orders payable to "DVLA Swansea" or "Driver and Vehicle licensing Agency".

    Registration and licensing will not take place unless you have the necessary documentation. In some cases the DVLA Local Office may wish to see the vehicle to check its identity.


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    REGISTRATION PROCEDURES FOR INDEPENDANT COMMERCIAL IMPORTERS OF NEW VEHICLES
    If you are :

    A commercial, independent importer of new, type approval compliant vehicles and

    Registered for VAT and

    Currently using the V55/4* system to register new vehicles.

    you may be able to benefit from the streamlined arrangements which were introduced in 2001.

    A new, secure first licensing and registration form - V55/2 - is available for authorised, VAT-registered, commercial traders. It offers distinct advantages over the V55/4 form in that it does not need to be supported by separate evidence of newness, compliance with type approval or Customs forms.

    How can I join the scheme?
    Import traders will need to be approved by the Vehicle Certification Agency before joining the V55/2 scheme.
    Applicants are required to demonstrate that:
    they have their own systems in place to show that only type-approval compliant vehicles are registered under the V55/2 scheme and that
    they have facilities for securely storing Certificate's of Conformity so that they can be audited as required.
    Approved traders will be held accountable for the use and security of V55/2 forms. They will also be responsible for submitting the completed V55/2 form to the DVLA Local Office on behalf of the customer.

    To obtain an approval application pack, please contact in writing:

    Registration Policy Section
    Vehicle Policy Group
    DVLA
    Swansea
    SA6 7JL
    Fax No: 01792-765211
    e-mail: [email protected]


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    A. Type Approval
    IMPORTANCE NOTICE: From 17 June 2003 Type Approval or SVA has been required for motorcycles, tricycles & quadricycles

    Non-type approved vehicles less than 10 years old that are personally imported are required to pass a Single Vehicle Approval (SVA) test. To qualify as a Personal Import [PI], the following conditions have to be met.

    · If the vehicle has been imported by a person entering the United Kingdom;

    · That the person had, at the time the vehicle was imported, been normally resident in a country other than the United Kingdom for a continuous period of at least 12 months;

    · That person intends to become normally resident in the United Kingdom;

    · That the vehicle has been in the possession of that person and used by him in the country where he has normally resident for a period of at least 6 months before its importation and

    · That the vehicle is intended for his personal or household use in the United Kingdom.

    Personally imported vehicles over 3 years old, that meet the above criteria, will be subject to the MOT test.

    The Vehicle Operator Services Agency will need to be satisfied that the person importing the vehicle complies with the above criteria.

    NB. P.I. status does not apply to HGVs over 3,500kgs.

    Commercial and other Non-Personal Imports
    If you do not qualify as a personal importer, you will need to submit your vehicle for an SVA inspection. Until 31 July 2001, one level of test "Standard SVA" applied to all vehicles. From the 1 August 2001 a more stringent SVA test was introduced, (Enhanced SVA) that applies to most imports which are neither type approved nor personal.

    It is also permissible to obtain an equivalent single approval granted in another EEA State.

    Further information on SVA is given in leaflet SVA4 and in the booklet 'How to Import a vehicle into great Britain' PI5.

    Vehicles over 10 years old are exempt from type approval and SVA but will require a current MOT certificate.

    A vehicle is classed as being 10 years old from the last day of the month of first registration.



    B. Customs & Excise Registration Documents
    What Customs Forms Do I Need?


    VEHICLES IMPORTED FROM OUTSIDE THE EUROPEAN UNION

    C& E 386 - This form is issued by Customs & Excise for a vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the EU.

    C & E 388 - This form is issued by Customs & Excise for a Customs restricted vehicle of any age personally imported from outside the EU.

    C & E 389 - This is a self-declaration form which should be used by VAT registered traders for commercial imports from outside the EU.

    BFG 414 - This form is issued to all Customs relieved vehicles, irrespective of age, which have been personally acquired within the EU by British Forces Germany personnel.

    For further advice on import duty and tax contact HM Customs & Excise Advice Service on 0845 0109000.


    C. Temporarily Imported Vehicles
    There are International agreements which provide for the temporary use of a vehicle in a foreign country for a limited time, usually 6 months in a 12 month period. A visitor to the UK may use a vehicle displaying foreign plates, provided that all taxes (including vehicle excise duty) are paid in their country of origin."


    I think the most pertinant point in your case maybe the last one!, as the car is registerd and it does have all the Tax paid in Japan I'd personally just drive it away with a big smile on your face! (hell it'll mean you may avoid speeding tickets)
     

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