Help, cant turn off 360 even when removing key

I wonder if you have a relay stuck on? Dont know much about Ferrari electrics, but a relay could do that.
Mike

 

The first thing I would try is to kill the power to the car. Let it set with no charger hooked up for a couple hours. Turn it back on and let it restart. That may reset the ECU once it is completely drained. It can't hurt and an easy try before looking at replacing anything.

 

I haver never had this issue with a Ferrari, BUT I had a very similar problem with my Carrera 4S. In that case, the ignition switch had broken internally. When I turned the key counterclockwise, the key would come out of the lock, but the switch mechanism did not turn anything off. In the Porsche, it was a relatively simple fix at the dealer, about $250.00, as I recall. Also, I subsequently learned that in Porsches, this was not an entirely uncommon issue. It sounds like you have a very similar problem.

 

What I would do is a process of elimination. First unplug 5E, then turn on master power swtich. If lights ALL com on then you know it's that circuit, if don't go out then turn off and power and try 10E, etc.

I'd find the circuit and take it from there (Relay stuck versus starter switch). Once you know which connector is involved, you can then trace it out. Might be cheaper than buying a new switch assembly..
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Interesting problem.

Hopefully it's the ignition switch. One hears stories of crazy things happening after dead battery scenarios. I can't think of anything but the switch and/or ECU confusion which might resolve with a lengthy power-down.

Best of luck.

 

Scott, very possible it is the actual switch !

I re-keyed my car to use the CS key and took the ignition cylinder apart. There is a main harness " white connector " which attaches to the cylinder with two screws.

Should this connector come loose, the timing on the cylinder would be off, as it would not engage in the corresponding position.

Unfortunately you have to remove the clam shells and gauge cluster to gain access.

Perfect time to adapt your starter button CS style !

EM

 

I'd try this before bringing it in to get the SD2 put on it and the wallet lightened..

The 360 utilizes all these silly relays that click on and off, when one is on or shorted, it will provide power to the various systems in the car.. the electrical grid is delightfully complicated and many circuits share power from one another.. its soo fun to diagnose..

Check out the following fuses: #7 and #14 in the front compartment/boot (they are to the instruments) on right side.

Consider checking the following relays for sticking in closed conductive position:
Relay 56 behind passengers seat: Key controlled devices
Relays 85+87 behind drivers seat: Both are "devices" relays that control the power to a significant portion of the electrical system when activated.

I'd check these by using a phillips screwdriver to open both panels behind the seats and then tap on them to see if lights go out, feel if warm, and change with equivalent relays by color and amperage (similar relays used in the car).

good luck!

edit: these relays and fuses are from regular 360, should be same as challenge.. check manual for positions in the box.

 

I had similar issues after a proper engine wash (i´ll never do that again...) and they also self healed after it dried properly

 

Great outcome and great to know these cars have character!