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Hele Battery in non - Hele car

Discussion in 'California/Portofino/Roma' started by c928jon, Jun 16, 2022.

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  1. c928jon

    c928jon Rookie

    May 25, 2010
    42
    HI

    My 2013 Cali 30 has a "Genuine Ferrari for Stop Start" battery installed which was in the car when purchased three years ago.

    I have a non Hele car. I'm getting all sorts of random warnings ranging from Stability Control though to Gearbox faults (Only done this one once but still wearing nappies (Diapers) in case it does it again)

    The faults are immediatley after start up and clear on restarting, which I assume is voltage drop after cranking confusing some systems.

    My understanding (from lots of searcing and reading here) is that AGM batteries run at a slightly higher voltage than standard lead acid ones. Does a non Hele car charge the battery at the appropriate voltage or am I short of a bit of charge?

    The car still holds charge well, it'll happily start after a couple of weeks off the tender but the faults seem to come after a few short journeys.

    Cheers

    John
     
  2. 695

    695 Formula Junior

    Mar 19, 2021
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    Denmark
    Full Name:
    Chris
    First of all buy yourself a battery tester where you can measure the State of Health (remaining capacity). The battery voltage may be fine, but over time the capacity will drop, which can result in the issues you describe.

    This one from Amazon will be fine to give you an 98-99% accurate indication on the SoH of your battery.

    I would always replace the AGM with AGM and non-AGM with non-AGM. I would not replace with a genuine Ferrari, but find a good quality. There are many suggestions in here on which batteries to get.

    I think the non-AGM is a 12V 100Ah 850EN, so find a 12V 100Ah with a EN as close to 850 as possible and you should be fine, and then remember to do the proper restart procedure when the new battery is in.
     
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  3. spaghetti_jet

    spaghetti_jet Formula Junior

    Jan 5, 2005
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    Europa
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    Bob
    #3 spaghetti_jet, Jun 16, 2022
    Last edited: Jun 16, 2022
    AGM batteries have a lower internal resistance than conventional wet lead-acid batteries so you need a specific bench charger that charges at a lower current/longer duration than old style chargers.

    Apart from that, everything I have read says you can put an AGM battery in a car that originally came with either a WET cell or AGM battery, but not the other way around. If the car came with AGM you should not "downgrade" to non-AGM.
     
  4. masguy40

    masguy40 Karting

    Oct 21, 2020
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    Kerry Lemos
    Your assumption that you are charging at a slightly low Voltage level is 100% accurate. The car's entire "system" is tuned to the battery voltage range and a wet battery system (alternator, internal regulator, resistance, coils, etc) are set to that level. The AGM battery should perform but not at its peak level of cold cranking Amps.
     
  5. c928jon

    c928jon Rookie

    May 25, 2010
    42
    Thank you for the fast and helpful replies. I’ll test the battery I’ve got (never need an excuse to add to the tool collection). If it looks like it needs replacement, I’ll try a wet battery and see how it goes.
     

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