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Have the best Ferrari's already been made?

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by FerrariF50lover, Jan 15, 2020.

  1. FerrariF50lover

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    With a lot of owners that own all the Special Fcars all thinking the 288 or F40 is the greatest it's begs the question. Have the best Ferrari's already been built? If the market is any dictation of the best cars the answer would be yes.
     
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  2. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Different people have different tastes Best really is a matter of taste. For myself I'll say it this way. I fell in love with Ferrari reading the Road & Track issue with the 275 4 cam. I wound up in the Ferrari business as a result. If Ferrari was making the cars they are today back then my life would have taken a very different path. I have zero affinity for the cars made in recent years. I didn't leave Ferrari, Ferrari left me.
     
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  3. REALZEUS

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    "The best Ferrari has yet to be built."
    Enzo Ferrari

    The progress in technology, speed and fun in indisputable. Some people are just stuck in their old ways...
     
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  4. Thomas S.

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    Fully agree from a performance point of view. It also depends on what people consider "best". From a rational point of view, the FF/GTC series is probably on top, when it comes to driving pleasure the Scuderia/Pista type of cars, etc. Concerning design, it doesn't necessarily have to be the hypercars or the great classics - I personally love the overall lines of the late 90s, especially the Maranello and the 360, even more than the very latest modern machines or most of the very expensive classics.
    But no need to fight about it - aren't these different perspectives what makes our common hobby (and this forum) so exciting...?
     
  5. Camlet1

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    To try and answer your interesting question, I've imagined Ferrari in 20 years time.

    By 2040, in my opinion, Ferrari will be making autonomous, connected, electric vehicles. Ferrari will have doubled down on its preeminent luxury lifestyle status and will focus on providing a superb design/style, comfort and entertainment travelling experience. It will be valued as a SaaS business.

    Ferrari will also maintain a very healthy Classiche department servicing the needs of its core collectible road cars. These collectibles will not be used on roads but rather private driving tracks, they (and the tracks) will become the ultimate status symbol, and like thoroughbred horses today, will be owned, cherished and even raced by the elite. Ferrari will use these collectible models like they do today but more so; the cars will underpin the marque's historic brand values and appeal in the era of autonomous mobility.

    The collectibles list is, IMO, unlikely to comprise many modern cars.
     
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  6. willcrook

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    in terms of lap times or speed: no

    in terms of exciting road cars: yes

    the f40/f50/288gto/458 spec and (surprsingly) the 599gto are notable examples each with their own personality imo
     
  7. killer58

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    Since I wouldn't trade my Spider for any newer model, I'd say probably yes.
     
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    Good vision through the fog
     
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  9. Igor Ound

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    Further ahead can see Ferrari making the switch to building super-fast hydrogen fuel cell plane/cars hybrids like this Aston Martin concept. 3 dimensions better than 2
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    Further ahead, I can see myself being quite dead before the Ferrari Flying car arrives. :)
     
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  11. ross

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    if by some perverted miracle, all cars in america, including ferraris were to be electric by 2040, then america would have had to already increase its ability to make electricity at 100x the capacity it has today.
    as you might imagine, this is physically impossible.
    hence, there will not be a universal electric car mandate.

    as to the op, the question is too vague and subject to interpretation - what is 'best' ? what does 'best' mean to different people?

    fwiw, imo, the ferraris that are the most engaging for a driver without having to go to a track, have already been made.
     
  12. F2003-GA

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    My most found memories are still that of my N/A V8 Ferrari's
    The turbo's are fast But they don't do it for me as the N/A's did :cool:
     
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  13. Rifledriver

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    The same can be said of all makes of cars and to a lesser extent motorcycles as well. Technology has been responsible for making cars faster than ever but at the same time it has incrementally been removing the human element in its operation. For the sake of safety, stability and traction control as well as ABS brakes it can be for a good cause but does never the less make the controls more of an interface and less and less of a driving experience. The latest and greatest make me feel like I am in a simulator with really good video. Vrtual driving and the cars that provide it are just not a substitute for the real thing no matter how fast they let me go.
     
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  14. ross

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    well there are some exceptions :)
    ariel atom, caterham, dunklevoort, mazda miata, i think even porsche still makes a boxster with a stick that can be driven without aids....
     
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  15. Rifledriver

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    Not a single one more than a mid tier car. I said a few years ago "every car we will ever own has already been built" and nothing has changed to make me rethink that.
     
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    yea, they are mid tier, but can be fun.

    i do agree with the line about all things i am likely to own have already been built though....
     
  17. Rifledriver

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    I agree and have often thought of building a Caterham but the thought that we have been reduced to that with the engineering and automotive resources available is a very sad statement.
     
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    a friend of mine in the uk, with far less skill than yourself, took a 308gt4, stripped it out completely, rebuilt the drive train, and put a rollcage into it, and then proceeded to race it on the amateur circuit.
    he won nearly everything. the empty car was so light, and the engine potent enough, that he ran circles around everything.
    maybe an idea for you?
     
  19. Rifledriver

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    I actually had some parts collected to do that and was looking for a tired, no sunroof GT4. I had a dry sump motor and big plans for it. Stripped and acid dipped, 4 liter motor etc. I sobered up one day and realized I could easily have $60,000 in a $20,000 car. A Caterham seemed like a better choice with a 200 HP rally motor in it.
     
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    yea, thats true as well.

    btw, at the ferrari festival in december i was offered a 430 gt2 car with all kinds of parts for $50k cash.....now thats cheap !
     
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    That's the problem, you can't make those decisions sober :cool:

    In re: to the op, IMHO, yes. Anything after the 458 just does nothing, and a few before it (I guess I jump from 360 to 458, then out), but my favorite cars are late 60's and 80's builds. Also, if money was no object, I'd go 288, F40, F50 any day over current day Specials and whatever comes in the next 5-10 years.
     
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  22. Rifledriver

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    Nothing is older than last years race car.

    Be a good track car though. A friend has a Michelottto 360 NGT. Pretty cool car.
     
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  23. Rifledriver

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    Yes. I hate to get specific because I really do hate to be critical of others cars but I agree with your choices in the supercar category. .
     
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