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Hamilton deserves more respect

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  1. spirot

    spirot F1 World Champ
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    yes, if you look at it, every team he's been with has cratered right after he left. Mclaren was a shambles and is just now coming better... but if they had stayed with HONDA who knows where they would be - a la Red Bull. Perhaps if he stayed focused on driving alone it may be better. but he's way too distracting.
     
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  3. 635CSI

    635CSI Formula 3
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    Hamilton is a ****ing good racing driver.
    On another thread we were debating how Vettel has zero race craft.
    That his time in the fastest car meant his race skills, overtaking a car with similar performance, defending against a faster car, are long forgotten.
    Hamilton, as evidenced by the weekend, after years in the fastest car, still has the skills.

    Do I supported him, am I am a fan? No.
    Do I wish him victory? No. I am Tifosi.
    Do I respect his ability? Yes
    Would he have won a WDC if driving a Ferrari in the Vettel era? Probably.

    If you do not respect the ability of you opponents, you are liable to loose.
    Charles is unlikely to make this school boy error.
    I doubt he wastes much time debating If Lewis is a GOAT.
    His focuses is on becoming the GOAT.
    I pray we can give him the car to find out.
     
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  4. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I'm 50/50 on him. He talks utter **** at times. A bit like Eddie Jordan: Really knowledgeable most of the time but spout some utter, utter BS, that actually discredits them more than it should.
     
  5. fer312t

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    OK ;)
     
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  6. jpalmito

    jpalmito F1 Rookie

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    Agree on everything.
    He is remarkable over the years.
    I would add this Mercedes team is the most dominant in history by a big margin.
    Just curious to know how much money they have put in this project since 2010 ?
     
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  8. SimCity3

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    And not to mention the most reliable cars.

    Didn't Mercedes start developing their PU around 2008 ?
     
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  9. furoni

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  10. furoni

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    Agreed, max is faster then Elton, so in reality, i'm not so sure the Bull is faster than the Merc, Just like Charles, his lap was probably better than anyone else, but only good for 4th place, yeat i'm pretty sure macs are faster, and neither lando or Ricce are slochs, but Leclerc is just on another level...
     
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  11. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Agreed. I'm still in awe at Leclerc's f2 season.
     
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  13. kes7u

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    This is garbage, and untrue. The stats and numbers do not back up his or his beloved organization's claims. You should know better. And Equity and Equality are 2 completely different things as well. You should also know that. Vomiting up platitudes is not useful.

    Kevin
     
  14. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 Veteran
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    Anyways my post was about his last race and quite frankly he was just great . It’s 1/23. So lots of time for Max to be WDC and or Lewis


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  15. kes7u

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    Don't you call them white supremacists these days? Things move so quickly, I lose track. Please get back to me.

    Kevin
     
  16. kes7u

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    Yes, I agree with you here. He has no integrity.

    Kevin
     
  17. NeuroBeaker

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    I'll get back to all 3 of you.

    @Flavio_C: the video you are directing people to was removed from the F1 Forum due to the P&R topics. You're looking for a workaround by telling people what to search for on YouTube instead of linking to it directly - this is not acceptable. There are no workarounds available to you. If you want to link and discuss that video, you will have to do it in the P&R section of the subscribed forums.

    @fer312t & @kes7u: let us please get back to discussing racing rather than racism. The latter can be mulled over at great length in the P&R forum of the subscribed sections.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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  18. Flavio_C

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    WTF?! You have to possess some very strong imaginative skills to come up with that.

    Is it also forbidden to say on this forum that Hamilton is a hypocrite? Please clarify because I don't want to get banned for nth time.
     
  19. NeuroBeaker

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    The video in question is an F1 rant that ventures into P&R topics. Those topics have been directed to the P&R forum so the video was removed from the F1 forum. If you continue to direct people to the video by encouraging them to search for ______ to get to it, that is a circumvention of the intent to keep the P&R topics out of the F1 forum. There is a P&R section that you can use and you know how you can get to it.

    It is not forbidden to say Hamilton is a hypocrite. No moderator has ever told you that you can't say Hamilton is a hypocrite. However, if the only reason you think Hamilton is a hypocrite is because of his political views, then perhaps you are safer discussing your supporting evidence for that topic in the P&R forum along with your discussion of the aforementioned video.

    I am sure this clarifies the situation for you.

    All the best,
    Andrew.
     
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  20. furoni

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    I personaly thing he's an idiot and he tries to lick strolls ass every single time....he's worst than a dry cactus...
     
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  21. Bas

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    Thankfully, plenty of evidence laid down that Hamilton is a hypocrite in the world of racing as well.
     
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  22. xpensivewino

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    Respect is earned. If he is not getting it after all these race wins, then he needs to look no further than in the mirror.
     
  23. ricksb

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    In essence, I think Buxton is correct and there should be no nuances where something is situationally legal/illegal. HOWEVER, this should have been hammered out in the driver's meeting when first announced. I think it was presented as "we know the T4 corner places the apex near the track limits, so we won't penalize if you go over". What it resulted in was a race strategy for Merc. Everyone could have done the same, but that was not the intention of the rule (imo).

    Merc certainly wasn't asleep at the wheel...
     
  24. NeuroBeaker

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    Track limits, for starters.

    All the best,
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  25. william

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    "Tell me someone who says he is not hypocrite, and I will show you a liar."

    Chinese proverb.
     
  26. Remy Zero

    Remy Zero Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Ironic. Chinese proverb when they are biggest crap in the world right now
     
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  27. 355TDI

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    Using the same logic, if you can’t respect a racing driver who has won and dominated every class he has raced in since he was a boy. Then goes and breaks every record in the book in F1, then perhaps you need to look in the mirror.

    Your hate and bias is palpable.


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  28. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Amen- and unlike Schumacher and my idol senna, it’s fair to say Hamilton hasn’t had as many shady accidents where he causes a collision say Villeneuve 97, hill 94...


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