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  1. ingegnere

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    I see Bottas’ invite got lost in the mail.
     
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  3. jpalmito

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    Lol
    The photographer said he saw Russell in the tender..:D
     
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  4. Mitch Alsup

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    When you are leading, you want to drive as SLOWLY as possible and finish the race while still leading. This does not appear to fans as "special" as it is not special, but it does preserve tires in case someone does meander up to give a challenge.
     
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  5. Bas

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    No, biggest news off all is there appears to be an insane man wearing a wooly ****ing jumper on a yacht
     
  6. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    He was allowed to drop them off at the port.
     
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  8. Bas

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    But he's got Verstappen right behind him so not sure how that works for the current season.
     
  9. ricksb

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    honestly, we hear the common refrain in the 2000’s “how boring these races are”. I think in the era of advanced aero, there aren’t very many “special” drives that I can recall from anyone. I can only remember Vettel crashing into Webber, Maldonado ruining Alonso’s WDC chances, Hamilton/Rosberg clashes, and Seb ramming Hamilton after a ‘brake check’. Ham on 3 wheels for the win last year was impressive, actually.
     
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  10. nerofer

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    Or, as Walter Sobchak (= John Goodman) in "The Big Lebowski" would have said:

    "Life does not start and stop at your convenience, you miserable piece of sh.t!"

    (The profanity is not mine, it is a quote)

    Rgds
     
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  11. 375+

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    "STFU Donnie!";)

    (The profanity is not mine, it is a quote)
     
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  13. nerofer

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    "So you have no frame of reference here, Donny. You're like a child who wanders into the middle of a movie and wants to know..."

    Rgds
     
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  14. Mitch Alsup

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    That was a big lap at the end of the British GP last year indeed !
     
  15. jgonzalesm6

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    Looks like Toto is jumping on the Hamilton bandwagon regarding making the grass roots of F1 more "affordable."

    Good luck trying to solve this huge financial challenge.



    "I think we need to give access to kids that are interested in go-karting, the opportunity to race for much more affordable budgets." Toto Wolff agreed with Lewis Hamilton's calls that grass-roots racing on the path to F1 should be more affordable:

    Wolff says racing must be more affordable after Hamilton ‘billionaire boys’ comment

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    Hamilton was raised on a council estate in Stevenage, with his father holding down multiple jobs to fund his early karting career that helped pave the way for his success in F1.

    The seven-time F1 world champion said in an interview with Spanish publication AS that F1 “has become a billionaire boys’ club”, adding: “If I were to start over from a working-class family, it would be impossible for me to be here today because the other boys would have a lot more money.

    “We have to work to change that and make this an accessible sport, for the rich and for people with more humble origins.”

    Three drivers on the F1 grid - Lance Stroll, Nicholas Latifi and Nikita Mazepin - are the sons of billionaires, while the majority of active racers have required support from manufacturers or sponsors to make it to the top level due to the costs involved.

    Mercedes F1 chief Wolff said that while every driver had their own story, he agreed with Hamilton that more had to be done to reduce costs in grassroots racing.

    “What makes the sport so attractive is that it provides narrative for good soap [opera] outside of the racing too,” Wolff said.

    “Drivers have always come from different backgrounds, and I think there is not always, everyone has his story, and things to cope.

    “I doubt that kids from a more privileged background have it easy all the time. They are fighting their own demons.

    “What I think we can do is make sure that grassroots racing becomes more affordable, so kids that haven’t got any financial background can actually be successful in the junior formulas.

    “All the big Formula 1 teams [need to be] able to identify those kids, rather than making it so expensive that a good go-karting season costs 250,000, an F4 season 500,000, and an F3 season 1 million.

    “That is totally absurd, [and] needs to stop, because we want to have access. I think we need to give access to kids that are interested in go-karting, the opportunity to race for much more affordable budgets.”

    https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/wolff-says-racing-must-be-more-affordable-after-hamilton-billionaire-boys-comment/6518394/
     
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  16. Mitch Alsup

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    Back when Hesketh broke into F1, you only needed a hundred million or so, and the cost of a loaf of bread was under $0.30

    So, I see no fundamental change in the wealth aspect needed to enter F1 {Gene Haas not included}
     
  17. Bas

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    Hugely hypocritical from Toto. All teams need to recognize poor, fast kids. Very few poor kids in karting. Most come from some sort of money to be able to afford karting on a national level at a young age already. Many teams run a young driver program. But the biggest thing, when you have hypocrites like Toto saying that these kids should be given an F1 chance, the poorer teams especially can't do this, purely because of the cost of F1 involved. What is a team with a budget problem to do? Pay a kid with potential some form of salary, or accept a kid with huge financial backing and buckets of sponsorship for a season? It's the latter, every single time. Money pays the bills. And the bills are huge...and with top teams telling smaller teams (who get their engine from..) how to vote for ever more expensive ''solutions'' to racing, well...

    Lets see what 2022 and the next few years brings in terms of money saved and whatnot.

    Should junior racing be cheaper? Of course. Karting and F2 are the biggest culprit. F3 getting quite a bit more expensive as well IIRC...
     
  18. gh0st0

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    I dunno, if Lewis is worried about these items, what’s he doing to change them?
     
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  19. simpen

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    It's in F1's self-interest to keep it accessible for the most talented drivers, regardless of wealth. Fact is that when there are only Mazepins, Latifis and Strolls making up the field, it will look more as a hobby series for the billionaire kids.
     
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  20. Bas

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    https://www.racefans.net/2021/05/28/i-need-that-point-weve-lost-a-ton-hamilton-team-radio-transcript-analysis/

    Full transcript of Hamilton's conversation during the GP.

    Remember when he accused the team that he was ''saving tyres''? (As he has done plenty of times when he feels he lost time/places due to a strategy call...instantly on the radio accusing his team of f'in it all up for him, airing his dirty laundry for everyone to hear).

    Well that's funny...because no such messages went out from him. The moment the team pitted him, and this was made clear a few laps before with the ''it's all about to happen Lewis'' call, at no time did Lewis mention he had great tyres and could do anything necessary. He himself steered the car into the pitlane with no alternatives or raised any questions. Just blindly steered into the pit and a lap after that, after the undercut failed to materialize...blamed the team publicly.

    These drivers aren't stupid. He knows full well many of the messages, especially controversial ones like above, get aired for everyone to hear. He is making these calls to make sure his legion of fans will immediately blame the team for this apparent strategy error.

    It's not the first time he has blamed his team for very similar stuff, and unlikely to be the last.

    Lewis is more worried about how he is perceived by his fans than anything else, it seems. And people wonder why they **** on him so much.
     
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    CAUSE HE'S ******?
     
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  22. jpalmito

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    Lewis speaks to a generation of social media enthusiasts. This same generation not concerned with a background work to educate itself but only attracted by appearances. It is so predictable that it becomes ridiculous!
     
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  23. fer312t

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    You're really dedicated to and put lots of work into hating Lewis, I will give you that. :D
     
  24. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    100%
     
  25. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    I just see through his facade, is all.
     
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  26. fer312t

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    You see what you're looking for :cool:

    Anyway, there are some refreshingly thoughtful even-keel people in that comment section actually - I was expecting troll central. Thanks for the link.:p
     
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  27. Bas

    Bas Three Time F1 World Champ

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    Whatever works for you, really.
     
  28. william

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    Yep, it's hard to understand the persistant rage for some in debasing a driver, mostly when he is, in fact, the most successful of his era.

    I don't know many sports where that happens.
     
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