Careful not to post any form of critique more than once, or some people will start to troll you. Ironically the FF was bashed for the Chrysler parts in the radio, now the infotainment is good and the whole side of the car looks like a Chrysler wagon with a Japanese rear end. FDS is making the mistakes of a team short in years, trying too hard to assert themselves, and yet lacking the design chops to be truly unique and also elegant. The TDF works because it's a muscle car. F60 America? Where to begin. Jalopnik said it pretty well. Let's hope they get it together, because needing to grow from going (partially) public, plus the generic/overkill of FDS is not a good direction.
I feel pretty much the same. I like the second picture but not the first. In the front shot the car looks rounded and well proportioned, in the rear shot it looks a little awkward. I think the car would look better in a dark grey or black so hopefully we'll see some other colours coming off the production line soon. I don't want to bash the Lusso because I want to like it and I know it will be a great drive. I may even buy one but the more I look at my FF the more impressed I am with the design.
I was struggling with how to express my reservations about the GTC4Lusso... you just nailed it. Agreed, I love my FF and I don't see a significant improvement in the GTC4Lusso. 4WS does not rock my boat; it was a gimmick when Honda pioneered it way back in the late 80s and I don't see that it could possibly improve the driver's experience in a supercar. If I wanted to buy a car just because it was easier to park, I'd get a Tesla. The irony occurred to me as well. The good news is that I can fix the Chrysler ubiquity of my FF by installing an aftermarket touchscreen; there's not a lot one could do to de-Japanize the GTC4Lusso's looks. +1. As the dealer kept telling me, some people get the FF, most don't. Once you understand the car, you're sold. Again, I don't see a significant advance in the GTC4Lusso, and apart from following the standard Ferrari model life trajectory, I don't see any reason to give this update a new model name (unless the factory has a LOT of excess random chrome letters lying around that they really felt the need to use up).
Another strange looking Lusso driving about Maranello. Ferrari GTC4Lusso - 3 June 2016 - Autogespot Doesn't look like a normal production car. Hidden badges, matt black wheels, no wheel centres. Any ideas? I keep thinking F12M mule/test car, but the wheelbase of the F12 is 270mm shorter than the Lusso so unlikely. Must say that from what i can see of it, looks good in Blue, probably TDF?
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Just another production model with the usual covering to protect the paint and trim during it's road test. In the past Ferrari used sets of tires mounted on wheels just for the test drive. After the test drive the Ferrari would then receive the correct new wheels and tire brand the customer ordered for his or her car.
Maybe pre-production tests of some kind but that's a GTC4, doesn't look like a mule for anything else.
I know it looks stock, but I didn't think Ferrari covered production cars badges when road testing, this one has everything Ferrari covered, shields, front and rear badges, no centre caps. Just thought it was odd.
Ferrari is not taking every car out for a spin covered like that. Maybe just this one, early production run. You'd think they have it together by now but maybe not.
I've seen the GTC4 a number of times now and am absolutely of the belief it looks more like an Estate Car from the rear quarter and rear view than a supposed fast back shooting brake. Treatment of the shrouded tailgate sitting over the lower truncated section is too similar to many mass produced run a rounds and for me personally to change, Ferrari will have to do better. 4WS why would I need that? Extra power.....nice but not a deal maker. Giant infotainment screen........good upgrade but not in my top priorities. Multi function passenger interaction screen.....now that would really get on my tits. The irony is that now the Lusso is out there in the public domain and we have all seen it, digested it and calmed down a bit the Emperor's new clothes may not merit all the ooohhs and aarghs of some early commentators. Agree with much of the recent comments and I too prefer my 2015 FF which is shear unadorned elegance.
is always the same issue.... when a very special new Ferrari come out many people at first sight didn't love it.. but than the things start slowly to change and the car became a new fantastic star, a new icon. ( i have seen this movie many times.....LOL ).
Except ... Pinanfarina. And now we are in a new era with FDS (and to a lesser degree shareholders). Have you seen the F60 America? Read the reviews from the rest of the world on these new looks? When those who can't afford a Ferrari are not excited something is off. They have now a brand new design firm, that is also within Ferrari. So that's bad in two ways. They are truly in house and more easily pressured by marketing and accounting departments. Design integrity is hard enough without all that. They are truly new. No momentum. No identity. No status to fall back on in a dispute with other equal branches. This easily can lead to a. Ambition based decisions, to assert identity and authority. b. Fractured design results, giving in to others authority. Finding the balance between ELEGANCE and POWER has always been the design aesthetic. I see a lot of power based designs thees days, some work, some don't. "Trying too hard" is a phrase that comes to mind. "Too male" is another. (We have Lambo for that) Great design conveys effortlessness, and a clear/unique identity that has balance.
Looks like the camp is divided but I think it looks absolutely stunning: https://www.instagram.com/p/BCzgDIOLf6k/?tagged=gtc4 The ff to me looks underdeveloped and a bit wimpy in comparison.
The funny thing is that picture actually confirms my doubts about the overly exaggerated design with creases and angles being too prominent. I appreciate we are all different and are each fully entitled to our personal views but that looks a bit Korean to me.
At the private launch of the FF the response was ecstatic and at Geneva it was hailed a masterful design which pleased those who wanted/needed an FF and shocked those who didn't see it coming. This latter group really didn't like the design or the design concept but basically it wasn't designed for them.
In common with the 488, the new design makes the car it's replaced look like a stepping stone to a fully realised vision of the same design.
Could be they are still trying to resolve the potential for oversteer with the 4WS in the lower gears when 4WD is playing its part.
I'd be very surprised if they are still sorting that out. If the 4WS works as well as it does on my GT3RS, it will give the car greater agility.
I think that idea makes a lot of sense. There are many settings on the mannetino to resolve and it's time consuming certainly. Can only be done on a full build. Explains the lack of road tests.
