Getrag Transmission "refresh"

There is a new Wheeler Dealers episode on the Motor Trend channel for a Maserati. This car has a Ferrari engine and transmission. Elvis, ex-F1 mechanic, did an overhaul of the transmission selector hydraulic unit and replaced the pump. He had to take the selector to a specialist for a rebuild. This episode might give you some ideas what might be needed for your car.

 

Completely different transmissions. FF/lusso use a DCT unit. The Maserati is a hydraulically shifted manual gearbox. With external hydraulic controls. The DCT is all internal sensors and solenoids.

 

I would contact this guy. Ferrari DCT Repair: Info and Kits to Repair Getrag 7DCL750 - YouTube

 

I would buy a good Ferrari and not screw with the transaxle and front drive until it causes problems. Overservicing may prevent the issues that have occurred.

 

Plenty of time to figure that out while enjoying driving her. After purchase, change all the fluids and filters in both transmissions/transaxles and keep doing that at intervals much more frequently than Ferrari recommends. Remember, these came with 7 years of free maintenance, so Ferrari wanted to keep those costs down as much as possible.

In older Ferraris, there was not even a factory recommended change interval for anti-freeze/coolant. Needless to say, that did not do the aluminum and rubber components any good. May be the same with the transaxles.

 

Once a year fluid changes are a must on the DCT gearbox. The fluid itself is caustic to rubber..how stupid is that?

As far as the PTU goes..it's not a question of if..only a question of when. Budget 25k for that failure. DCT gearbox..I have seen repair quotes that would melt your eyeballs.

IMHO..the car is not worth it. It's a money pit waiting to happen. You don't want to inherent another person's headache. I would stay away.

 

My F12 transmission quit in the last few months of Ferrari extended warranty earlier this year (2013, 24k miles)… done, car wouldn’t move. Car serviced at a Ferrari dealership (for what that’s worth) etc all its life (agree with tbakowsky, services at dealer are incomplete). Fortunately transmission was replaced by FOA (at a cost of 53k supposedly) and life went on. I have also thought of getting a Lusso for a daily but after this experience with “newer” Ferraris and their poor quality, that I went with the old and for my next Ferrari bought a beautiful 355 GTS. A good mechanic, heck even I have turned a wrench on this “old” car. Easy, fun, enjoyable to drive. Would recommend you start with a 308 / 328 / 355 and get the Ferrari bug; if you are mechanically inclined, a no brainer. If I didn’t think the F12 was the most gorgeous Ferrari in decades and had its sublime balance of sport / comfort I probably would have sold it after the transmission repair. There are plenty of cool cars out there that you can get into without spending A LOT of money. Life is about choices. Just a thought.

 

@scottac8de...for all of the reasons that others have mentioned in this thread, I hope you might consider a 612 Scaglietti instead. A solid, reliable car that really can be a daily driver. I had considered a FF also, and I am really really glad that I didn't go that route.

On a side note, I think that a FF/Lusso with the PTU removed and with a gated-manual conversion would be an amazing thing. I hope somebody makes that happen someday.

 

When those came out I predicted that would be the future for them. Ferrari is so poor about long term support for their gadgetry it is very likely not only an economic reality but the only way they will remain roadworthy long term. The 4wd cars especially. DCT or not,that bit of engineering is monumentally stupid and cannot help but fail. The designed in stresses doom it to a short life span.

 

Thanks for your update. I have a vintage Ferrari with a manual transmission and don't have any of these problems with the modern computer controlled transmissions. Life was was a lot simplier back then.

 

Ok, it sounds like I have my marching orders! Umm, does anybody here have a FF or Lusso with a blown transmission and PTU that they would like to sell...cheap?

 

I would love to get an F12 one day but posts like these scare me. Luckily, I would also be very happy with a 599.

 

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I watched the referenced video given above. The level of experience and the special tools required for a rebuild appear to make a DYI project a very bad idea.

 

My 2011 cali dct just grenaded..was my dd the past 3y. For 328gts doesn't the clutch only last 15kmiles???

 

Don’t believe this is accurate; owned a 308 that put over 50k miles (ended up selling it w/ 130k miles) and only changes clutch once in my ownership, driver dependent is what I would say but a clutch should last 30-50k miles w/ good driving skills IMO

 

Except for all the ones I see going 50-100,000.
I rebuilt the engine in mine and reused the old clutch.
Just more wives tales for the internet.

 

I had a corvette for 10+ yrs and did 160,000 miles. Been driving single clutch out of the womb That's good to know that the 80s rarri's will last if you now how to drive them properly

 

What I find fascinating is people willingly and knowingly buy cars with very expensive transmissions that self destruct on such a regular basis even if you do dive them properly. And many of them in response pay outlandish money for an extended warranty as a hedge against the time bomb.

Call me silly but I'd be shopping for something else.

 

Same. 2006 C6 Z06 still on original clutch at 165,000 miles. That includes probably 20 HPDE days, and several trips down the 1/4 mile, last one done at 150,000 miles just to see how it would still do. 11.6 @ 124mph, right up there with some of my best runs ever on that car.
That car has been amazing and owes me nothing. We added cold air intake and tuned it and got to 490hp at the wheels right after I bought the car when it had 29,000 miles on it. I’ve only changed spark plugs once and replaced all 4 shocks, both around 120,000 miles. Literally nothing else has failed on that car, not even blinker lights or alternator or AC or any other GM accessory that typically only last 100k miles.

If you treat an automobile right it’ll generally treat you right.

 

You’re silly. As great as all my Corvettes have been, the 458 is a completely different experience and worth the price of admission for me. It’s certainly no worse than owning actual race cars in terms of cost and maintenance to operate. I defray my cost by doing my own labor as much as I can.