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Gear lever bushings - 5 speed

Discussion in '365 GT4 2+2/400/412' started by Arvid, Jan 18, 2016.

  1. dstacy

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    Huh, so then how does the outer (#22) on the 365 stay attached? There isn't a clip, retainer, or anything shown in the parts book. There has to be something or you'd be pulling it and the knob off each time you went to 2nd, 4th, & reverse.
    Interesting.
     
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  3. Arvid

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    I will try to remember that.

    I think the same parts,or an equivalent,is inside that lever too. It's just not posted as single parts. If you would to order part nr. 22 it comes complete,push on,drive :)
     
  4. Bill26

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    #28 Bill26, Jan 23, 2016
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    Arvid,

    The key to this puzzle is the nylon piece that looks like a crown. This is the retainer - the conical end faces down and the upper gear lever assembly is retained by the rounded castellations locating in the rounded ring at the base of the upper (chrome) gear lever.

    The upper lever can be removed by axial upwards force using a hammer puller screwed on to the gear knob thread or prising the retainer out using a home made tool that will fit in the gaps of the castellations. There is a lot of clearance between the nylon retainer and the lower shaft so it is not too much trouble to twist it out with the right sized prising tool. The picture below should give you an idea of what is needed.

    My choice is the second method - Good luck!

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  5. Arvid

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    Bill, this is great information and just what I was hoping to hear. I thought that sooner or later somebody would turn up that actually had done this repair.

    Thanks :)
     
  6. dstacy

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    Ok, its been a while.....what is the verdict? Can this be done without pulling the console, tranny, etc?
     
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  8. Arvid

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    Dave, it's been a long while but nothing regarding gear bushings has happened at this end. My car is fresh back from the shop so now the time is spent on detailing.

    When I do get around I'll sure report back and I'll put my money on the puller tool,Bill's second method.
     
  9. STEVO6667

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    Same parts as Fiat 131!
     
  10. willrace

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    Resurrecting this thread, checking to see if anyone has found a better method of removing that #@%^ing sleeve (part #22 in post 6)
    We've tried pulling from the top, levering from the bottom, combinations of both while trying to insert a pick to compress the little fingers inside, and no luck.
     
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    Weekend bump, hoping for someone who has serviced/replaced this area during a restoration or rebuild will chime-in.
    Can't replace the deteriorated boot (part #38) with that sleeve in-place.
     
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  13. Ak Jim

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    Not really much help but what's easier, removing center console or pulling engine and trans? :)
     
  14. willrace

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    Interior is already fully out, so the whole shifter mechanism is exposed. Replacing the original, dried-out, and cracked #38 and #39 boots is one of those "while it's exposed, and right there...." opportunities. Just can't get that sleeve to cooperate!!!
     
  15. Ak Jim

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    Where did you get the boots? At some point I'm going to pull the dash and center consol and would like to replace the boots along with other things.
     
  16. willrace

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    FerrParts. You have to be specific about #39, so it's not confused with the one for the automatic. Ask for Punu - he already knows, though we can't confirm on this end, since #38 goes on first........... and well.......
     
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