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Full Novitec exhaust system 458 Spider, to loud?

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  1. Senshi458

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    Hi

    I have bougt Novitec cat back exhaust system for my 458 Spider. Im considering buying Novitec Cats and manifolds, but I'm afraid it will be too loud.

    I've heard that it's better to just use OEM cats and manifolds with Novitec cat back exhaust and that the sound will be more like 458 this way.

    Please give me some feedback on what you think.

    thanks
     
  2. mik458spider

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    I'll let you know in few weeks. But I don't get the Novitec's manifold though, that alone is much more expensive than the whole set of Novitec exhaust, test pipe, and fabspeed header (manifold).
     
  3. 458trofeo

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    NEVER TOO LOUD!!! :D
     
  4. rockitman

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    I will have their F1 exhaust mufflers installed in the next few weeks keeping my stock headers and cats. I'm doing it in stages. If I like the tone and volume, I may just stick with the mufflers and call it a day.
     
  5. 720

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    I wrestled with what to do to improve my Speciale's exhaust sound. I too was planning on trying things in stages. I first tried an uncommon setup. I kept my OEM exhaust, but I replaced the stock cats (they're 800 cells) with Capristo 200 cell cats. Bingo! It was exactly what I was hoping for. Much more aggressive than the stock setup, but not crazy loud. The Capristo 200 cell cats come with some kind of O2 Simulator that apparently fools the ECUs into thinking nothing has changed with the cats...so far no check engine light issues...
     
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  6. rockitman

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    Are the '14 Italia cats 800 cell ? That's a lot. I will use just the mufflers for the upcoming year and when I go in for service fall 2016, I will do the cats if needed. The stock exhaust still sounds good. The valve controller is the key.
     
  7. 720

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    #7 720, Nov 4, 2015
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    it's always a bit of a chore trying to find out how many "cells per inch" OEM cats have. I don't know about the 2014 Italia, but my guess is it "probably" has 800 cells per square inch or close to that number :)

    IMHO the valve controller is "icing on the cake", but going from 800 cell cats (estimated) to 200 cell cats is "the cake". The consensus seems to be that the single exhaust component that has the biggest impact on the "exhaust sound" is the cats. That's why I decided to start with changing the cats to 200 cell. If i still wasn't satisfied then I was planning on replacing the OEM back box probably with a Frequency Intelligence back box. But i was so happy with the exhaust after only changing the cats that I'm not planning on making any other changes.

     
  8. rockitman

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    That's interesting....maybe I should have done the cats first...hopefully I will like the novitec back box more than stock. I'm stuck with it as it is being built as we speak. My SA says it makes a better sound over the stock box. We shall see.
     
  9. 720

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    Novitec is first class so I'm sure you will be very happy. The stock exhaust note was so disappointing to my ear that I stopped driving my Speciale until I had a chance to start making changes to the exhaust.

    Did you see fchat Chrixxx post on his adventures with Speciale exhaust systems?

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia-488/465931-speciale-sound-crisis-3.html


     
  10. rockitman

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    Yes....read the entire thread.
     
  11. drvik

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    Resurrecting this thread :)

    What's the feedback?
     
  12. Alex@TAG

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    Did you opt for the Valved Exhaust from Novitec? The reason why I asked is because the non-valved exhaust system with the Novitec Cats and Manifolds can get pretty loud all the time. If you have the valved system it'll be great! You'll be very pleased!

    Here is a video with the complete cat replacement pipe which is loud but sounds amazing. If you went with the high flow cat that would be perfect.

    As always - please feel free to reach me directly if you have ANY Questions at all! 877-523-6747 x198 or Email/PM me!

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=H-M6DTv4FMY[/ame]
     
  13. 720

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    I have a question. I was going to choose Novitec 200 cell cats and the Novitec Techtronic device to eliminate the check engine light issue. However, I was told by the dealer who was told by Novitec that for some unknown reason the Techtronic did not reliably stop the CEL on US Speciales (works great on non-US Speciales though). Do you know if they've sorted this problem out yet? I ended up going with Capristo 200 cell cats and their O2 Simulator. I have not had any CEL issues at all. But I would have chosen Novitec if the Techtronic device worked.


     
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    What a work of art that engine is!!!!!
    Almost makes Beethoven sound tame :D :D
     
  15. Alex@TAG

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    So yeah you are absolutely correct, Novitec's Techtronic unit doesnt work for USA Spec'd 458 or Speciale's. There is something different in the ECU between USA and Europe unfortunately.

    Now what we have been doing is sending the ECU out to get flashed to prevent that or using Akrapovic's Delete-R module which certainly works as well :)
     
  16. Benternet

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    Doesn't flashing the ecu risk voiding the warranty
     
  17. spec458

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    Hi, do you have a video of this set up, would love to hear the difference it makes.
     
  18. Alex@TAG

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    It does if they do see it. They typically dont have any way of seeing that the ECU has been flashed. :) Thats why we send it all the way to Novitec Germany
     
  19. DK308

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    Just curious. But why would you want NR cats instead of Capristo if that was an option for you?
     
  20. RossoNero

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    Hi guys,

    While we're on the subject, I've ordered the Novitec cat-back unit WITH flap regulation for my Speciale. The stock manifolds and cats will remain.

    Will this alone yield a significant improvement in volume and tone?
     
  21. 720

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    I had the same question when I was trying to come up with a good solution to improve the exhaust sound of my Speciale.

    I read what fchatter Chrixxx learned when he installed several different exhaust components on his Speciale.

    http://www.ferrarichat.com/forum/458-italia-488/465931-speciale-sound-crisis-5.html

    I was going to start by replacing the OEM back box with a Frequency Intelligence Ultimate Race (Novitec is also a good choice IMHO). But it seems the consensus of people with an opinion on this topic believe that the component that has the biggest impact on the exhaust sound are the cats. Okay. Makes sense. I decided to take an incremental approach and start by replacing the OEM cats with 200 cell cats (I chose Capristo 200 cell cats because their O2 Simulators work very well on US Speciales to eliminate CEL issues). Then, if I wasn't satisfied, the next step for me was to replace the OEM back box with Fi Ultimate Race. However, after changing the cats I was completely satisfied with the much improved and aggressive exhaust sound. It's louder, but not crazy loud, and the tone is very aggressive. I'm very happy with this solution.



     
  22. 720

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    #22 720, May 24, 2016
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    I had the impression that Novitec products were the best quality. But I believe that Capristo products are similar quality so I was happy with either.

     
  23. mik458spider

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    Muffler alone won't improve the volume. It's a right decision to get the muffler with flap now. Not so long later, you'd definitely go full system, that's the time you'd need the flap.
     
  24. justin458

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    Question. I'm thinking about adding the Novitec mufflers with the flaps. I currently have fabspeed headers, test pipes, stock rear mufflers, and the fabspeed ecu tune. It sounds really good but was hoping to get an even higher pitch sound with the Novitec mufflers. I do really like that the stock muffler flaps make the car sound almost completely stock when closed on long highway drives. Will the Novitec exhaust and flaps do their job like the stock mufflers do to keep the car quite while not in race mode? Want loud when I want loud but quiet when the old lady is in the car if you catch my drift. Thanks
     
  25. Alex@TAG

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    #25 Alex@TAG, Jun 6, 2016
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    That is exactly what they will do. It will work just like the factory. We have done several of them, especially mated to a high flow cat (or catless in your case) it would be bananas!

    But yes - to answer your question, the flaps would work just like the factory ones. :)

    Give us a call - we would be more than happy to assist.
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