From which manufacture date are the 458 gearbox issues resolved?

i would very much like to know this as well, if anyone knows anything

 

I owned 2 2010s with no issues


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How long have u owner each and up to what miles? Thanks


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I heard $40k, Non serviceable unit

 

That may have been the case originally before any dealers were trained to service but as numerous threads here show that is no longer accurate but in this era of fake news the myth will always make a better story (after all who cares about the 100 000 mile car in a nearby thread with NO issues) !

 

about $4-$5k to fix now that it is a serviceable item.

 

REALLY???? WOW!! that's cheaper than a clutch job of f430 and 360.... how great is that

 

I must confess my ignorance: I didn't know the 458's gearbox had received an update. I thought the unit stayed the same throughout production (from Getrag).

The update you're alluding to: is it in terms of software or hardware? Or both?

Another 458 owner told me that gearbox software was updated in 2012, months after the Spider's launch (to not make it as aggressive as the Italia) and roughly at the same time of the 7 year maintenance program (March 2012?), but I can't vouch for that and I can't also pinpoint the exact date from which onwards gearboxes started to be serviceable (replacing bad sensor) instead of replaced (the whole unit).

Kind regards,

Nuno.

 

From what I understand from the mechanic at my local dealer is that, early models had an issue with an internal wiring harness that would wear through causing issues. This was correct in later model years (unsure of the year, 2012??). Honestly, I don't know of any gearbox having an internal wiring harness but given the breadth of experience of the mechanic, I'm not going to doubt him as he has worked on exponentially more 458's than what I have.

 

If there's an internal sensor then there is an internal wiring harness.

 

Just go buy the best car you can find regardless of the year. If the gearbox needs a sensor ever then so be it. Deal with it then. Not to mention any other sensors that may need to be replaced at any point while owning one of these high tech cars. There are so many threads on this subject and so few pre-2012 cars ever had an issue that this is a moot point IMHO. I can tell you though, if you find a pre-2012 with the original engine mapping before it was updated, the sound is better than any post 2012 you will find. Ask me how I know this

 

the man speaks the truth.

 

Then you have an issue with any repair you may need. See if you can find a good independent shop that can service a late model Ferrari.

 

As of year 2012 you are good.

 

Just find the best 458 at the best price and enjoy it.


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Nobody knows. But you may look at numbers on the outside of the gb ...

 

The DCT transmission made by Getrag in Germany and used in all modern Ferrari's is the most complex part/system in the entire car. There is not one universal "sensor" that has a problem which can solved by replacement. There are 4 pressure sensors, 4 speed sensors, 3 temperature sensors, 6 position sensors that all have 2 pin electrical connectors, and provide information to the DCT ECU. The DCT ECU controls the function of 17 solenoid valves inside the transmission through three wiring harnesses with 68 wires inside the transmission. There are three external connectors on the transmission housing: two 26 pin connectors, and one 16 pin connector (total of 68 pins, of which only 58 pins are used). All of the wiring/connections/sensors and solenoids live in a bath of 100 degree C oil, and are exposed to severe vibrations and G loads. If just one sensor, connector, wire, solenoid has a problem, then a fault will be set and the transmission may malfunction.
While earlier production transmissions had wire routing/chafing issues that have been rectified in the later units, any of the later transmissions can and do have issues with mostly speed/pressure/temperature sensors. With time and use, the DCT transmissions are only going to have more problems. This is only the electrical portion of the transmission. Also consider that the transmission has two separate oil/hydraulic systems which must remain separate from each other with associated seals and sealant. Time and heat also take their toll on these components.
Removal, disassembly and repair of a DCT transmission is not a $4000-5000 bill. Figure at least 30-40 hours of labor plus parts to repair any internal DCT issue.

If I owned one of these cars, I would either have a warranty or put $20k in the bank for future DCT repairs.

 

Steve, absolutely sensational round-up. Couldn't agree more.

Great insight, Brian. Thank you! There's so many misinformation and "fake news" out there regarding potential gearbox repairs that it's nice to get an explanation from someone who knows what he's talking about.

Kind regards,

Nuno.

 

Bottom line it is a Ferrari. Things can and will go wrong. Period.


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