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  1. Agent Smith

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    #76 Agent Smith, Apr 19, 2025
    Priorities are definitely elsewhere these days.
     
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  2. Kimi2007

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    #77 Kimi2007, Apr 19, 2025
    Ham has a two year deal with Ferrari, so they're not committed to him for some long stretch. If he doesn't get near the pace of Leclerc by the start of next season, when the new aero and engine rules are out, they'll cut him loose for sure.

    There's still 19 races left, so I expect Ferrari will eventually close the gap to the front, and get some wins in.
     
  3. DF1

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    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)
    #78 DF1, Apr 19, 2025
    Ferrari are static in terms of any recent improvement

    —The level of Ferrari compared to the frontrunners was on display in Jeddah, where Leclerc could only manage a 0.376 gap to pole sitter Max Verstappen, leading the Ferrari driver to suggest the team’s upgrades work has done little for their competitiveness.—

    The only question is when do they just move on to development for next year…….
     
  4. DF1

    DF1 Two Time F1 World Champ

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    FRA - nice city with a really big airport :)
    #79 DF1, Apr 19, 2025
    Yet Ferrari Corporate are utterly profitable so I’m certain investors see no issue with “priorities”
     
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  5. Kimi2007

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    #80 Kimi2007, Apr 19, 2025
    Some great drivers don't know when to go home, and stay at the party too long.
     
  6. Kimi2007

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    #81 Kimi2007, Apr 19, 2025
    It's the change to the pull rod suspension. They're lost, and by the time they figure it out, the points lost will likely eliminate them from the championship before the halfway point - realistically speaking anyways.
     
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  7. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #82 jgonzalesm6, Apr 19, 2025
    That(pull-rod suspension) and lowering the rear end of the car. This was the place to do it(lowering). Instead Ferrari went for a low downforce setup and sacrificed cornering speed. Max's car was sparking ALOT during the straights.
     
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  8. HotShoe

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    #83 HotShoe, Apr 19, 2025
    God every time I hear this every fiber in my body cringes. I feel like I woke up in the twilight zone where F1 is about selling hats and not winning.

    Besides, I’m sure sales were stellar at the signing but who is going to continue to buy/wear gear supporting a crap team? It’s the Motorsport equivalent of Miami Dolphin merch! :D
     
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  9. lagunacc

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    #84 lagunacc, Apr 19, 2025

    Vaporware.


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  10. jgonzalesm6

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    #85 jgonzalesm6, Apr 19, 2025
    Well HotShoe, there merchandise does sell globally whether Ferrari is winning or losing and I see it in the stands from a global perspective with THAT YEARS Ferrari shirts and logos....mostly they are the young crowd.
     
  11. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #86 jgonzalesm6, Apr 19, 2025
    Well, realistically Vasseur was a catalyst in the signing but Elkann and Vigna were the co-conspirators of the signing and financial outlay.

    I get it though.
     
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  12. jgonzalesm6

    jgonzalesm6 Two Time F1 World Champ
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    #87 jgonzalesm6, Apr 19, 2025
    Max gets a slight tow from Tsunoda at the start of his qualifying lap.

    Then Max makes 2 mistakes in T1-2 and his T13 exit was not ideal.





    So Verstappen basically made two big mistakes - and still got the pole. Despite getting a mini tow from Tsunoda (and dumping a lot of hybrid power I suspect) on main straight, the brakes too early and loses time on T1-2 exit. His T13 was not ideal (had some traffic, which may have caused it) and just managed to hold onto his advantage through T27.



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  13. USMCS6

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    #88 USMCS6, Apr 19, 2025
    Ferrari better pour some highly oxygenated fuel in that thing. It's a truck
     
  14. watt

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    #89 watt, Apr 19, 2025
    Seems like Lando made a bigger mistake:)
     
  15. Etcetera

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    #90 Etcetera, Apr 19, 2025
    Because their struggles are self inflicted and caused by a never ending train of poor decisions, year in and year out.
     
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  16. Bas

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    #91 Bas, Apr 19, 2025
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    #92 Bas, Apr 19, 2025
    When they sign Max they can repeat this hat sales trick, but also get results on top :D
     
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    #93 Bas, Apr 19, 2025
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  19. lagunacc

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    #94 lagunacc, Apr 19, 2025
    He'd get more out of the car irrespective what F did. And could help develop the car. Winning formula.

    LH new era smelled like gaslighting, is gaslighting. 100% fail with no future.
     
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    #95 HotShoe, Apr 19, 2025
    I have no problem of course with them selling gear and cashing in. My problem is when the team/fans try to tell me selling merch is more important than winning.
     
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  21. Agent Smith

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    #96 Agent Smith, Apr 19, 2025
    I don’t disagree. It’s usually the case where investor priorities and fan priorities don’t align.
     
  22. Jakuzzi

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    #97 Jakuzzi, Apr 19, 2025
    Thankfully, Leclerc keeps out qualifying LH44................
     
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  23. DGS

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    #98 DGS, Apr 20, 2025
    Development? With what (who?)?
    Neither Ferrari driver is a car or setup developer.

    Maybe they should snag Hulk from Sauber ...
    ... although I don't know if he can still set up a car the way he could years ago.
     
  24. DGS

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    #99 DGS, Apr 20, 2025
    Sainz ahead of Ham again.
    Any bets that Ham punts Sainz off track at turn one?
     
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  25. stavura

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    #100 stavura, Apr 20, 2025
    Max is just freaking incredible! Read a comment saying he has finally completed his lap from 2021, and what a lap it was :D

    Norris and Ham…. :rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:​
     
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