FORMULA 1 ROLEX MAGYAR NAGYDÍJ 2019: RACE ▄▀▄▀ SPOILERS ▀▄▀▄

Max said at the end that his tires were gone, how could they know that when Lewis pitted?
They had 1st place to loose, if they pit they would have never got it... there was more chance to get a 21 second lead over time than passing Lewis in the slower car

 

Because they should know the degradation rate. This was no different than when Max caught Leclerc in Austria.

 

How could they know the exact degradation rate in full race trim? It also depends on how the driver drives...
Lewis thought his tires would not last as well so Mercedes was not sure either....

 

This is supposed to be Formula 1, the pinnacle of auto racing. It's their job to understand these things.

Sure, and they should have know as soon as Lewis pitted and put on Med that Max would have to really push, making any previous estimate on degradation/life meaningless.

Again, look at what happened to Leclerc in Austria. That was only a couple weeks ago and similar conditions (dry track/high temps). How soon these guys forget.

Even yesterday Leclerc got screwed again by the team, although I thought that Seb might be pushing it with 30 laps on softs.

 

If it was so easy Ferrari would win every race... they should know it because they are the longest in the pinnacle of racing
No track is equal, temperatures are different, surface is different and probably the setup of the car is different.......

 

But again, the position would be given up...and lewis would be on quite fresh tyres.

The only time Red Bull could've pitted was immediately after Hamilton, but they already would've likely been overtaken.

When Max's tyres really took a turn for the worse there was only 10 laps or so left = not enough to take advantage of the tyres vs time lost.

The only hope they had was that the tyres wouldn't degrade further so that verstappen could at least defend....but this was not to be.

 

How many fakes are allowed before the stewards threaten a penalty?

 

Time pace advantage and Bottas was providing data on his long run on hard tires. Mercedes not really driving blind.

 

MB or anyone else?

 

It was mentioned that RB should have known the tire degradation... I do no know why Bottas long run should have helped them when Lewis pitted???

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If it's Mercedes, as many as they want.

 

Bottas tires were peaking and his progress slow on hard tires. Also Vettel on mediums was with good pace and Mercedes picked medium to pressure Max with 22 laps remaining. Max on well used hard compound

 

Again: it was mentioned that when Lewis pitted the Red Bull should have pitted as well as they should have known how the tire degradation of the RB would be in the end... I questioned based on what data they should have known 25 laps before the end how the tire would exactly develop... and Bottas tires and Vettels tires do not tell too much as those are Mercedes and Ferrari and not Red Bull. Every car uses the tires different! The tire lasted until about 5 laps to the finish and then the were dead. RBs only chance was to get the tires over the race, a tire change would have been certain a second place....

 

You could be semi-comatose and realize this season blows. Or not.

 

https://www.autosport.com/f1/news/145278/how-mercedes-used-friday-morsels-to-win-hungary

Mercedes motorsport strategy director James Vowles says "morsels of data" from Friday practice helped the Formula 1 team predict how Max Verstappen's tyres would behave in the Hungarian Grand Prix.

Lewis Hamilton won the race after pitting for a second time, overhauling Verstappen with four laps remaining as the Red Bull driver struggled on ageing hard Pirelli tyres.

All teams were compromised by limited dry running on Friday, but Vowles said Mercedes was able to construct models that allowed the team to predict how Verstappen's tyres would perform.

"Going into the race we had less data than normal due to the wet running on Friday," said Vowles in Mercedes' post-race Pure Pitwall video.

"No one had long run the hard tyre - run it with fuel to understand the wear, the degradation and how it would progress in the race.

"And that creates a lot of unknowns. Everyone went into the race, ourselves included, with the intention of one-stopping.

"As we went in it was clear there was no undercut opportunity, our next plan was to offset ourselves on tyres relative to Verstappen and then force him into a situation where he is using his hard tyre resource as much as possible, and maybe put him off the curve.

"As Verstappen and Lewis started to pull away from the field, it became obvious that other opportunities existed, which in our case, was a two-stop.

"We have a team behind the scenes that are working tirelessly. They took the morsels of data from Friday, the little running that we had, and constructed models as to how our tyres and Verstappen's tyres would perform during the race. And they were spot on.

"It is those models that enable us to understand that two-stop would very much lead to a fantastic situation at the end of the race, and that Verstappen's tyres should drop off the curve if we can pressure him enough.

 

At least one team is acting like they are at the pinnacle of racing.

 

If true

 

Nice to see that Forumal 1 is becoming Formula AI. Yet more reason to ban armies of data scientists supporting the teams during the race. If I want an algorithmic arms race, I'll go watch Google, Facebook, Microsoft and Apple slug it out. What does this have to do with the spectacle of motor racing..? Don't get me wrong -I love tech in the cars, but I don't think this use of hugely expensive data science, which the vast majority of fans do not have any interest in and cannot comprehend, is helping the 'show'.

 

Science has been used from the very beginning. That it has evolved as the cars have should not be too surprising.

 

Fans come to see sport. This is like Mission Control at NASA talking the drivers through every step of the mission. Is that sport?

It has diluted the spectacle and turned what had been a battle between gladiators into The Science Fair.

 

The rules have done that, written by men, not science.

 

Sid back me up here. SID???

 

Only 24 days

 

Post of the month

 

I'll back you up no worries