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Poles are the best test of speed, more than racing.

 

I tend to agree with that, but still I can't see nothing wrong with it.

 

Well, it's illegal, for one. The rules explicitly say you have to use your own parts, designed in house, with the exclusion of some.

If it was allowed, the discussion wouldn't happen!

 

This is from the FIA rule book for the control of the surface definition of the FW Neutral Section. The surfaces, upper and lower, are defined by 150 (!!) points each at a resolution of .001 mm and a tolerance of 0.5 mm.
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The above example is for a simple wing profile - for the outboard section of the wing with its twist and multiple elements or a shape as complex as the rear diffuser a full-up 3D surface definition is required with a tightly controlled profile tolerance.

The as-built assemblies will then be inspected by high precision coordinate measuring machine or laser scan. To think that these details can be reverse-engineered by looking at pictures is beyond laughable and is the belief of people who never designed or built anything of this precision and complexity in their lives.

Proof that copying from pictures (to achieve correlation of performance which is essentially within 1% - as measured in lap time) is not viable is that every team would have copied the Merc and thus make the same jump in performance as Tracing Points have, including Williams who have the same PU.

I suspect that somewhere along the line the pink Merc team got the surface definition of last year’s Merc (and maybe even the aero characteristics - i.e., aero map for car set-up) and they just designed the structure and mechanicals within these boundaries. Pretty sure Renault is trying to confirm this with their protest.

 

Thanks for that.

It's a shame F1/FIA has become the joke that it is, as we know nothing more than a slap on the wrist (if that) will come of it. Incredible really, when you think of it. The money spend by other teams (an amount well over a billion by all the teams RP are ahead of so far) makes not an ounce of difference to the FIA...just keep doing favours for McMerc. What dirt does Mercedes have on chief FIA/F1 staff? Or is it simply sacks of money?

 

which amaze me is how mercedes is so powerful politicaly that they managed to influence the so called specialists with this cheating.
How somebody without mental illness could believe for one second that racing point has created the car only with thousands of pictures ?
Goebbels regularly stated : the biggest the lie is , the more he is credible

 

I like to think a deal was made over at Mercedes. "We'll cut it close...but Nico honey, we'll give you the WDC this year, but then you gotta go."

 

I think Nico had more failures the year before. The competition between them was close. Much closer than with Bottas. Anyone thinking Nico was not a fast and smart driver is mistaken. He was a good F1 driver. Gladly see him back than Vettel.

 

Legal? illegal ? a very thin line between these 2.

Was Ferrari engine legal last year? Serious doubt about that, eh ?

Who said RP didn't design their part from photos? Would that make it alright if they show some drawings? Would that prove they own the IP ?

 

Because it's not possible!!

 

Exactly so. Where there's smoke, there's fire.

 

Maybe they picked one out of a dumpster after last yrs Hungarian GP

 

I think that’s the line of thought Renault is following because what do they know about designing race cars...

 

Who says ?

 

Imagine how bad it is.. last year's Mercs to be the next best cars after this years Mercs.

 

It's all about the branding. Nico was more of a cry baby. Bottas screws up every now and then. He's just a midfield driver in a top car.

You can remember any iconic race whereby Hamilton took a normal car to win? There's plenty of times Schumacher, Alonso, and Senna did this. Lewis, in a perfect car, will be screaming to Bono about his tyres.

 

Yea, and Schumacher just sat there while Ross developed the car. Either you are missing the whole point, or you are brand new to the series.

 

I can't see why it's bad.

 

I never said, he just sat there. He played a significant role in developing the car. He is known for being the best at developing. Nothing wrong with that. The greats, Senna, Shumi, Hamilton etc. all will be known for different things.