Honest environmental cost-benefit analyses do not exist in California. And the fact is that most of the recent regulations coming out of Califorina cost the economy far more than they help. The prevailing mode of operation is, "If it regulates, it propagates."
I'm surprised that no one here has address the fact that the inner 2nd seal that looks like a coin with a slot is quite tight. The Owners manual says not to push in with your fingers or a screwdriver. As I have not had a chance to try to fill the gas again, I was wondering if anyone has ever broke the hinge?, on this second seal by forcing the gas nozzle in?
Never had a problem. I go the same station every time and they r very careful. In unfamiliar stations, I fill myself. Don't really care if they don't like as one mistake and gas is on the car or they pull the nozzle and swing before clearing from the car.
It is actually illegal in NJ to pump gas yourself. I went and got gas for the first time at my Shell station and I supervised the guy but he knew exactly how to do it since Ford cars now have the same no cap tank. So no big deal.
It is true that California environmental regulations are very costly and create tremendous hassle for everyone who have to comply with the regulations. But for anyone who have experienced the unbelievable polluted environment in China, you would understand where California is coming from and love it. Image Unavailable, Please Login
My muscle car friends would say that only on a Ferrari site would there be thirty plus posts about filling the car with gas.
I use a piece of cardboard that I carry around in the car.I found for some reason Shell gas nozzles work without the cardboard any other stations require it welcome to California
Actually I have lousy success with shell nozzles. Tho they get them from major vendors. Arco tends to work well. 76 is much like shell. SV
Glad I saw this thread before my first fill up. I sure I would of had gas all over myself and the car.
+1 On the FF (looks like the same setup) I start the nozzle in the outer hole, then slide it, dragging the outer hole toward the center of the opening to get it to the inner hole that you can't see. Mine has two flaps, the outer one you can see in the photo and another inside that you can't see.
I've found that at least at some of the stations I visit, I have to use the "hold the shroud up" trick. Problem could easily be solved with a taller ring on the fuel filler neck that holds the shroud up, as there is a switch in the nozzle that prevents pump operation unless the shroud is pushed back a certain distance. While I could (and do) stand there holding the shroud back when using these stations, it certainly would be better to have a taller ring or maybe a work-around ring that could be inserted temporarily between the filler neck and shroud when refueling. Did anyone make such a thing?
Ferrari seems to have addressed the problem as the Speciale I recently drove did not require to have the gas nozzle's covering to be pulled back As for Lola, she does not like the foreskin
Never got around to adding a rubber bumper to the base of the throat to see if I could add the necessary interference. A bumper with self adhesive or so... SV PS I see less with the 458 and FF than the Cali. But still imperfect...
In my manual was stated that a special piece is supplied in all (EU ?) cars. Found it and tried it: seems to work well ... Do yo have it in the pouch too ? Who has used it ? Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login Image Unavailable, Please Login
Is this not just for refueling from a can if you run out 😀😀have one in my F12 as did my 458 Sent from my iPad using Tapatalk