Thanks, see, no F40 sale posted there..?? Poor BiTurbos....I know of one sitting in a field here.....with wildflowers.
thanks it what i was looking for. strange for F40 and 308 vetrocina not sold, some Ferrari too... well, not really a buyer just curious to see year by year the evolution and alos the future of Ferrari.
A case of 'pearls before swine'.....I'm afraid.....I enjoyed his participation as well.. Gstaad is close to some ski slope areas? How is the snow this year? What color was the glass 308GTB...any pics?
I always wondered how long it would last. He brought a distinct flavor and knowledge to this forum, legitimizing some discussions, and settling others. Its a shame to have driven him away. I can only hope that he may forgive and forget, and try it again. But then again, someone else will drive an errant stake as well. For some it is too easy to go negative. I'm amazed at how much napolis has taken and still graces us with his input. I spent some time with Marcel showing him some vintage photos I had of Scuderia Bear from the 60's. He knew every single car upon sight, with serial numbers and present whereabouts. Truelly a profound knowledge base running around his head. I will miss his input. cheers and happy holidays, Can't we all just get along? ken
Wouldn't one expect to be at a peak in the car market when desireable models (e.g. 250, F40) are no sales? Also, what's up with Maserati's being included at Gstaad this year? BiTurbos being sold next to Ferrari 250GT's?! Madness. Different clientels, to be certain.
Does anyone know if that was the same 750 Monza for sale at the Bonham auction at Monterey back around August?
I was referring to this link... here is the info they listed: Sale 14486 - Exceptional Ferrari and Maserati Motor Cars, Related Automobilia, 17 Dec 2006 The Palace Hotel, Gstaad, Switzerland Prices are inclusive of Buyer's Premium and sales tax (VAT, TVA etc) and may be subject to change. Lot Description Hammer Price 1 An Italian sales brochure for the 250GT Coupe, CHF58 2 A sales brochure for the 330GTC, CHF633 3 A technical instructions book for the 365GTB4, CHF690 4 A 410 Superamerica rivet-fastened specifications sheet, CHF207 5 An operating maintenance and service handbook for the 330GTC, CHF690 6 Richard Merritt, Ferrari Operating Maintenance and Service Handbooks - 1948 to 1963; CHF253 7 An operating maintenance and service handbook for the 275GTS/GTB, CHF4,025 8 A 275GTB/S workshop manual, CHF863 9 A good collection of Ferrari Yearbooks covering the period 1958 to 1970 inclusive, CHF4,370 10 A blue ring-bound workshop manual for the 330GT, 1964, CHF748 11 A rare spare parts catalogue for the 250GT, CHF1,955 12 A sales brochure for the 275GTB4, CHF1,265 13 A sales brochure for the 330GTS, CHF368 14 A good collection of Ferrari related subject books, CHF460 15 Hans Tanner, A Ferrari Owner's Handbook, CHF518 16 Klementaski, Ferrari, CHF748 18 An operating, maintenance and service hadbook for the 35GTB4, CHF633 19 Eight Ferrari books, CHF230 21 Five Maserati books, CHF288 22 An operating, maintenance and service handbook for the Dino 246GT, CHF437 23 A Ferrari Dino 246GT spare parts catalogue, CHF253 24 An operating, maintenance and service handbook for the Ferrari 330 GT, CHF368 25 An owners manual for the 288GTO, CHF575 26 A Ferrari F40 US version handbook, CHF230 27 A rare sales brochure for the Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta, CHF690 28 A rare instruction book for the Ferrari 250GT, CHF2,645 29 Maserati Birdcage 'The Marvellous Tipo 60 & 61 Sports Racing Cars' by Joel E. Finn, CHF633 30 Le Grand Prix Automobile de Monaco, CHF368 31 Three Maserati books, CHF690 33 Le Grand Prix Automobile de Monaco, CHF368 34 A sale brochure for the Maserati Sebring 2+2, CHF150 35 An owners manual for the Ferrari F50, CHF322 36 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 246GT, CHF288 37 A sales post card for the Ferrari 410 superamerica, CHF403 38 An owners maual for the Ferrari Testarossa, CHF230 39 Richard F. Merritt, Ferrari Brochures and Sales Literature source book, CHF230 40 An operating, maintenance and service handbook for the 246GT / 365GTC/s / 35GT 2+2 / 365GTB4, CHF230 41 A spare parts catalogue for the Dino 206GT, 1969, CHF437 42 An instruction book for the Ferrari BB512, CHF368 43 A technical manual for the Ferrari F40, CHF403 44 An owners manual for the Ferrari 512BBi, CHF368 46 A sales brochure for the 250 Europa, CHF115 47 A sales brochure for the 250 Millemiglia, CHF483 48 A sales brochure for the 365GTB4, CHF483 49 A 1969 Ferrari Production range leaflet, CHF253 50 A good collection of motor racing event programmes and related literature, CHF805 51 An owners manual for the Ferrari 412, CHF230 52 A sales brochure for the 250 Europa, CHF748 52A A sales brochure for the Maserati Mistral, CHF161 53 A sales brochure for the 250 Europa, CHF690 54 A sales range brochure for the Ferrari 250 GT, CHF483 55 A sales brochure for the Ferrari Dino 246 GT, CHF575 55A A rare sales brochure for the Ferrari 166 Inter, CHF1,323 56 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 212 Inter, CHF322 57 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 375 Millemiglia, CHF460 58 A spare parts catalogue for the Ferrari 308 Quattrovalvole, CHF437 59 A collection of Ferrari press and sales literature, CHF288 60 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 275GTB4, CHF437 61 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 250 Millemiglia, CHF460 62 A rare sales brochure for the Ferrari 166 Millemiglia, CHF1,380 63 A good collection of Ferrari sales brochures , CHF115 64 An operating, maintenance and service handbook for the Ferrari 275GTS/GTB, CHF1,955 65 A sales brochure for the Ferrari 250 Granturismo, CHF1,035 65A Maserati 'The Postwar Sports Racing Cars' by Joel E. Finn, CHF1,150 67 A rare sales brochure for the Ferrari 250 GT Berlinetta, CHF2,070 68 An owners maual for the Ferrari F355, CHF437 69 A good collection of 12 Ferrari press photographs, CHF1,610 71 A good monochrome image of the Jean Guichet / Nino Vaccarella 250LM at Le Mans 1964, CHF345 72 Juan Manuel Fangio, a commemorative poster, CHF115 73 A good selection of Ferrari related posters, CHF58 75 Fangio 'Una Vita a 300 All'Ora' CHF345 76 Fangio 'Una Vita a 300 All'Ora' CHF460 77 A 2002 San Marino Grand Prix poster, CHF161 78 Fangio 'Una Vita a 300 All'Ora' CHF230 79 A rare and original 24 Heure Du Mans 1955 shop window advertising display poster, CHF518 80 La Passione, by Chris Rea, CHF1,150 81 After Geo Ham, CHF460 84 Tony Upson, a cut out acrylic on board study of a Ferrari 'T' shirt wearing lady, CHF690 85 Tony Upson, a cut out acrylic on board study of a Maserati 'T' short wearing lady, CHF460 86 A modern Italian sports car sales light box, CHF460 87 Tony Upson, an acrylic on canvas study, 'Lancia Ferrari, Luigi Musso', CHF575 90 Tony Upson, an acrylic on canvas study of a 1936 Maserati 6CM, CHF518 91 Tony Upson, an acrylic on canvas study, 'Maserati 250F', CHF805 92B A 1979 Ferrari champion du monde celebratory roundel, CHF690 92C A hand painted acrylic on board by Tony Upson featuring a female Agip forecourt attendant, CHF1,035 92D A hand painted acrylic on board by Tony Upson featuring a clumsy female Agip mechanic, CHF1,150 94 Nicholas Watts, CHF2,760 97 Nicholas Watts, CHF4,600 99 Dexter Brown, 'Schumacher on Ferrari', CHF4,600 100 A holographic image of a Ferrari 500TR, CHF115 101 A rare Jean Alesi presentation helmet, CHF2,990 102 A good Tommy Hilfiger Ferrari team jacket, CHF322 103 A race used 'Michael Schumacher' Ferrari front wing, dated May/1996, CHF20,700 104 Three Ferrari team shirts, CHF748 105 A good Tommy Hilfiger Ferrari team jacket, CHF288 106 Three Ferrari team shirts, CHF460 107 An interesting 'Dexter Brown' limited edition Gentlemans Ferrari wristwatch, CHF690 108 A fine and rare set of six Weber 38DCN carburettors, CHF16,675 109 An original and rare set of competition tools for a Ferrari 250TDF, CHF14,375 110 A rare 1953 Mille Miglia emnamel on tin advertising sign, CHF9,200 111 A Perspex illuminating Maserati 'Approved Service' showroom sign, CHF322 112 A good Ferrari enamel on tin showroom advertising sign, CHF920 113 A Perspex illuminating Ferrari 'Approved Service' showroom sign, CHF403 116 A brown leather jacket, CHF460 117 Ferrari Cutlery by Arthur Krupp, Italy, CHF173 118 The 1923 Targa Florio 'Costruzioni Meccaniche Nazionale' Alfa Romeo drivers Trophy, CHF14,950 119 A fine 1:5 scale handbuilt Ferrari 250 GTO model, CHF12,075 120 A fine and detailed 1:8 scale handbuilt model of a Riva Aquarama classic speedboat, CHF1,150 121 A fine and detailed 1:8 scale handbuilt model of a Chris Craft tri-cockpit classic runabout, CHF1,035 122 A 1:12 scale handbuilt model of Lancia D50 used by Andre Pilette in the 1956 Belgium Grand Prix at Spa, CHF1,725 122A A 1:12 scale handbuilt model of the 1972 World Sports Car Championship winning Ferrari 312PB, CHF2,300 123 A 1:12 handbuilt model of the Ferrari 330/P4 driven by Amon and Vaccarella at Le Mans 1967, CHF1,955 123A 1:12 scale handbuilt model by M.G models Italy of the 1968 Ferrari 312, CHF2,760 124 A 1:12 scale handbuilt model of of the Sunoco Ferrari 512M as driven by Hobbs and Donohue Le Mans 1971, CHF3,220 127 A rare 'Bimbo V12' two seat child's motorised pedal car by Sila, CHF6,785 127A A tinplate 1950s Ferrari 750 Monza toy car, by Bandai, Japanese, 1960s, CHF230 127B A tinplate 1950s Ferrari 750 Monza toy car, by Bandai, Japanese, 1960s, CHF230 127C A tinplate 1950s Ferrari 750 Monza toy car, by Bandai, Japanese, 1960s, CHF230 128 A colour print photographic study, CHF114 129 Maserati 151, CHF433 130 Maserati 151, CHF228 131 Ferrari 250 GTO, CHF1,253 132 Cunningham Team Maserati 151, CHF342 133 A Maserati Mistral B1 Spyder Hardtop, 1968-69, CHF9,200 134 A pair of sterling silver Gentlemen's cufflinks in the form of three eared Borrani spinners, CHF1,150 135 An original 1954 Maserati A6 Zagato Bumper CHF1,150 136 An Oldtimer Grand Prix roundel, CHF575 137 A Ferrar 250GTE Bar, CHF12,650 138 A Ferrari 250GTE Sofa, CHF10,350 201 1974 Maserati Indy 4.9-Litre Coupé 2070 CHF66,625 202 1985 Maserati BiTurbo ZAM 331 800 E81 12674 CHF4,595 203 1967 Ferrari 330GTC Berlinetta 09459 CHF207,576 204 The Ex-Bill Kimberly/Dr Dick Thompson/Augie Pabst, Briggs Cunningham Le Mans Team ,1962 Maserati Tipo 151 Sports-Racing Berlinetta 151/006 CHF2,046,097 205 8,455 kilometres from new,1990 Ferrari F40 Berlinetta ZFFGJ34B000086762 CHF379,190 206 The Ex-Walt Hansgen/Augie Pabst and Bruce McLaren ,1961 Maserati Maserati Tipo 63 Sports Racing-Prototype 63.010 CHF712,398 208 1964 Ferrari 250GT Lusso Berlinetta 5525GT CHF414,796 209 1969 Maserati Maserati Mistral 4.0-Litre Spyder AM109SA1717 CHF199,861 211 1977 Maserati Khamsin Coupé AM120-1262 CHF78,112 212 1969 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona Spyder Conversion 12779 CHF326,617 213 Only 1,300 kms from new,2001 Ferrari 550 Barchetta Pininfarina ZFFZR52B000124287 CHF227,416 214 The Ex-Maserati France, Jo Siffert/Jochen Neerpasch, Le Mans ,1965 Maserati Tipo 65 Sports-Racing Prototype 65.002 CHF932,844 215 1995 Maserati Ghibli Open Cup Coupé 00361226 CHF51,691 217 The Ex-Rosso Bianco Collection ,1964-type Maserati Tipo 151/3 Sports-Racing Berlinetta 151.002 (number quoted on chassis plate affixed to dashboard, see text) CHF282,528 219 Single family ownership from new,1972 Ferrari Dino 246GTS Spyder 03902 CHF180,020 222 c.1968 Ferrari 330GTC Berlinetta 11395 CHF166,561 223 The ex-GPC Giesse Squadra Corse ,2004 Ferrari 575GTC Competizione 2216 CHF640,753 224 From a private collection in France,1971 Ferrari 365GTB/4 Daytona 14087 CHF284,732 225 1956 Maserati A6G/2000 Allemano Coupe ,1956 Maserati A6G/2000 Berlinetta 2147 CHF229,621 228 1984 Maserati Biturbo Coupe ZAM 331B 00EB 108399 CHF5,743 229 1969 Ferrari 365GT 2+2 Berlinetta 13419 CHF97,639
Here's a gallery shot by Dirk de Jager: http://www.*************/gallery/119513/1095/1.html The 151/3 sure looks good from a distance. The auction description says another 151/3 is being made from the original body, i'm surprized it survives.
I quoted you because your question is so obvious, but if more people here could take some time and study the info that is in here http://www.***************.com/frame.php?file=event_item.php&rid=118 all your questions will be answered.......
Yes it struck me as strange as well, I could understand the big dollar classic racing Maserati's but they are a long way from the Biturbo era. However looking at the dearth of decent classics available at any one point to the major auction companies, what else can they fill the auction with. I would guess that we will never see another GTO/ Testa Rossa sold at auction ever again because nobody wants to take the risk of a no-sale or a difficult situation so they sell them privately. The auction companies then struggle to get interesting and valueable cars and so they accept just about anything. just my interpretation timmmy
I disagree. At least for the Gstaad sale. It has never been about selling interesting and valuable cars only. Wether this was by choice or if they were forced by the lack of supply, I think it has made for very nice auctions. Not everybody can afford a seven figure Ferrari and Bonham's has given those not so fortunate the opportunity to buy a nicely presented Ferrari on a budget. The people that bought the Biturbos here have a very good Christmas and I don't think it affects the appeal of the auction negatively. It's of course debatable if any car should be sold/bought at an auction, but that's a whole different discussion.
Agreed, a Mistral Spyder or a 3500 GTI Spider are no way the lesser gods to contemporary Ferraris. And btw, last year's auction saw a Harley Davidson under the hammer...so no reasons for complaints now.
actually only one of the 2 Biturbos was allowed in the main garage. We did not even see the other one...
I've actually got nothing against the much maligned BiTurbo, but just consider it a mistake to let two disposable Maseratis be sold the very first time that the Gstaad auction allowed more than just Ferraris to be on sale. What's next, the Chrysler TC by Maserati?!
I have nothing against Maserati Biturbo's at all, and I apologize if that is how it sounded, what I did think was ALL auction companies need to be carefull with how they market themselves in both A - what they accept for sale B - how they sell it. If they want the Gstaad sale to be the Ferrari sale and a very upmarket sale at that, how do they then include a 1980's Maserati, I would think, IMHO Racing Maserati's (Great) Any pre 1970's Ferrari (Great) 1970's onwards Ferrari (selected, best of the best) 1970's - 1980's Maserati's (not my thing) Timmmmmmmmmy (Keepin it real since 1968)
