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  1. fstarr56

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    Is Ferrari red the same color throughout the years, or has the formula changed from year to year?
     
  2. kerrari

    kerrari Two Time F1 World Champ

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    Many different reds, plus lots of subtle shades within the basic Rosso Corso. When my car was being prepared for me I was gobsmacked by the number of minor variations. I'm an architect, so used to looking at colours critically but couldn't pick the difference between some. When the painter got the match perfect I thought him a genius!
     
  3. JeremyJon

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    there are a few threads on paint colour, try the search function for 'paint' and/or 'rosso corsa'
     
  4. fstarr56

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    Thanks guys, btw is color the same as colour? :}
     
  5. JeremyJon

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    correctly spelled

     
  6. 328PWC

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  7. Renato

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    Excellent!
     
  8. PhilNotHill

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    My Spider is Rosso Corsa 322 DS. Looks more orange than my 360 Rosso Corsa 320.

    Thanks for posting.
     
  9. Mozella

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    Yes, they're both misspellings of colore, a three syllable word with a "long A" sound at the end.
     
  10. kerrari

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    Si, e ' vero!
     
  11. nerofer

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    The name "Rosso Corsa" for the "most common red" of the Ferrari catalogue appeared officially in the catalogue in 1982 if my memory serves me well.
    Before this, the usual "most common red" was "Rosso Chiaro"...even if Chiaro means "light", the color was actually a bit darker than "Rosso Corsa" (confusing, eh?).

    Not wanting to repeat a previous post, but Rosso Corsa then evolved about every three years or so; it rapidly acquired the suffix "300" with the first change of color; then became "Rosso Corsa 300/6" at the end of 1984, being slightly more orange than "Rosso Corsa 300"; then, during the 328 production, in mid 1987, became "Rosso Corsa 300/9", again a bit more orange; early in 1991, it became "Rosso Corsa 300/12" once again a bit more orange, etc...it has never ceased to evolve since, each new reference is slightly different from the previous one.
    (as an aside, we must also indicate that the passage from the "single stage paint" to "base coat and clear coat" occured at the beginning of the 348 production in 1989, all 328 still being "single stage")

    The name "Rosso Corsa" means simply "racing red", and there is no color defined precisely for this; it means there is no fixed standard, no precise tint or hue, as defined by an internationaly recognised reference charty, such as the Methuen, the federal Standard, the British Standard, the German RAL, etc....
    Any red could be called "Rosso Corsa", and any car manufacturer has its own (FIAT had one in the sixties catalogue, well before Ferrari...) although it should be noted that the usual standard for italian reds on racing cars until the sixties was darker and more "burgundy" if you like (a bit like the colors called "Rosso Barchetta" in the Ferrari catalogue); it is the advent of television, and the airing of races that made the "average standard" of Rosso Corsa evolve towards lighter, more orange colors, as they gave a better "rendition" on the screen than the former usual "darker reds".

    So there is no such thing as an official, precisely defined, "Rosso Corsa", just like there is no such thing as an official "British Racing Green": any green reasonably close to Brunswick Green would do.
     
  12. 328PWC

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    Thanks for the informative post.
     
  13. AceMaster

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    Colour = Canadian

    Color = Everyone else


    :p:D
     
  14. Mitch Alsup

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    Red seems to be a bit special. Even if your eye can't see subtle differences, a camera CAN. Probably has something to do with the range of reflectivity between red and near infrared.
     
  15. Nospinzone

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    Wow! As I scrolled down through the colors and saw Blu Scozia, the picture was of my car. I don't mean it looked like my car, I mean it IS my car. Shouldn't I get a royalty or something? ;)
     
  16. kerrari

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    Actually

    Color: US
    Colour : rest of the English speaking world...
     
  17. speed racer

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    #17 speed racer, Aug 27, 2013
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  18. ebobh15

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    Not slang, but the spelling of colour/color has a great history and backstory. It was a formal effort to de-Anglicize the language by Noah Webster in 1806. He published the Compendious Dictionary, and took special effort to change a number of words, including: theatre to theater (and all similar -re words); to change the "c" for an "s" in defense, offense; to change the pronunciation of the letter "z" to "zee" instead of "zed" and a number of other changes to specifically alter the language away from the previous government's norms (for obvious reasons).

    Demographically, if we look at the total number of people worldwide who are native speakers of the language, we also find the unfortunate American version to be more widely spoken as a native tongue (about 310M Americans, about 120M UK, Australia, NZ & Canada). English is an official language of dozens of countries, although it is so primarily for business purposes, and mixed with Dutch, French and other native tongues in its uses.

    Bob H
     
  19. PhilNotHill

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    Thanks, Bob:

    How did you acquire such knowledge on this subject?

    BTW my research shows that the reason Americans drive on the right side of the road was a conscious decision to separate from the king's government.
     
  20. simon klein

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    Just remembering that the 'states was colonised by many different countries and the indiginous language is actually Indian.
    Therefore the following should apply
    Lets try to forget the African nations,all of the Carribean,the English speaking Indians(not your indiginous lot...just nearly 1 billion in their own country),that were influenced by mother England's spelling bee.
     
  21. PbPedis

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    Wow, the things you learn on Fchat...and in a thread about the colour red!
     
  22. Hawkeye

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    Went to the F1 department to see the racing cars from over the years, amazing the different colors of red on the cars. It was explained that Ferrari identified a specific color of red they wanted television viewers to see on screen. Depending on the country of the race and the television equipment used, Ferrari would manipulate the color red to stay on brand so the viewers saw the correct color.
     
  23. Mozella

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  24. ebobh15

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    I do research for a living on a variety of topics (usually for forecasting) but also write, and love Etymology. I've always found you learn a lot if you drill down into words, why they are used, and from whence they came. I especially enjoy the nuances and differences between the King's English and my native tongue...

    Re the right side of the road, the US Dept of Transportation actually has a page on it explaining its origins (On The Right Side of the Road - Highway History - FHWA). Animus towards the English post-Revolution was part of it, adopting habits from the French, and the transport of goods via horse teams & wagons all pushed it that direction. A wagon driver would either sit on the left rear horse (the wheel horse) or on the wagon on the left near side. This is largely attributed to the original Teamsters in France and the USA, who would sit left and then drive to the right to be able to steer away from colliding with an oncoming wagon.

    The emergence of wagon travel also encouraged drivers to sit left to hold and use the whip with the right hand. Interestingly, early American cars either had the steering in the middle or on the right to be able to see the right curb (when driving on the right hand side). Henry Ford changed all that with the Model T. It became so popular everyone else followed suit and placed the steering wheel on the left.

    Simon, no offense intended; I lived in Exeter and am an avid Anglophile (even while owning an Italian car...). The indigenous population of "America" in pre-Columbian times was about 10 million, and was sadly displaced/eradicated by those who spoke English and other Western European languages. There is very little linguistic crossover from the original American native tongues except for names of various foods, plants and animals early settlers adopted. I also thought about both Africa and India when considering the response. Nigeria, for instance, has about 170M people; however, only 20-25% speak English. Most of their language is spoken, and not written, so word variances have little importance for the vast majority of folks there.

    In India, English is a secondary language, with Hindi as their official language. They also have more than 1,600 mother tongues (pales to the number of Hindu Gods in number, though). They learn English, and have more than a hundred million English speakers, but that is only about 10-12% of their population.

    About 25M French and 20M Italians speak English; my tendency is to put them on the American/English side of the ledger lol; all in good fun (or humour).

    Bob H
     
  25. PhilNotHill

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    Bravo.

    Thanks
    and may the horse be with you.
     

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