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Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by harrish1985, Mar 11, 2021.

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  1. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

    Jun 17, 2016
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    I’ll have significant equity built in due to my large down payment. I also don’t plan on keeping car for 5 years. Leasing doesn’t seem attractive because of the down payment up front plus high monthly expense. If I have $75-$100k equity by the time I go to sell in 2-3 years after delivery I’ll be happy.
     
  2. Cigarzman

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    If you are strong at a bank you can probably put down 125k and get an interest only loan for 2-3 years. This type of loan will cost you much less. All you’re doing is kicking the can down the road though. Figure you are going to loose ~ 35k per year on the car. Best , Kirk.
     
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  3. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    I'm not overly concerned about keeping the monthly payment low. Main objective is to lock in a decent APR and with FFS at 4.98% I may consider doing traditional financing with a bank.
     
  4. Cigarzman

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    I would think spending 3 k per month vs 1,500 per month and accomplishing the same end game would be very attractive , but hey if you like paying 3k per month have at it. You would only be paying interest on the balance. If interest rates doubled you would still be paying the same or less.
     
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  5. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    Except my cost of ownership at 3 years would be close $100k+.
     
  6. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    If that floats your boat. Consensus here seems that maybe you could put down less, pay more monthly and make your money work for you.


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  7. Natkingcolebasket69

    Natkingcolebasket69 F1 World Champ

    Agreed. That’s what this YouTuber stradman did for his veyron... he did put 400k down though


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  8. GT2goneF

    GT2goneF F1 Rookie

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    I second that.
     
  9. GT2goneF

    GT2goneF F1 Rookie

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    Just 400k. LOL
     
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  10. Cigarzman

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    Exactly my point. You’re going to loose that 125k you put down but your 1500 per month outlay will be less than Ferrari Financial by a huge margin. And in the end of three years you can basically sell the car and pay off the balance and walk. If you decide to finance the car I do believe you can do it for less than 5 pct too at a bank if you have some horsepower there.
     
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  11. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    How would I lose the $125k?

    Car MSRP: $415k
    Down Payment: $125k
    Amount Financed: $290k
    Finance @ $3.5k month including P&I payments made equal: $126k

    Assuming at least a third of $126k went towards interest I have at least $200k in equity between my down payment and the $75k that went towards principal over the course of 36 payments. I certainly hope the car is worth way more $200k in in 3 years.
     
  12. Corsaspider

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    Are you taking balloon payment at $3.5k monthly? I wonder how did you get to that number? Because if you are taking regular financing P&I for $290k for 60mo adds to more towards $5275 monthly.


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  13. Cigarzman

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    Your car will depreciate about 35k per year maybe more with such a high MSRP. I’ve owned 2 new ones 458 -488 spiders and that has been my experience. Maybe yours will be different. Every time I’ve sold mine after ~ 3 years it’s lost about 100-120k in value. Best , Kirk.
     
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  14. Gh21631

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    Likely to be worth retail around 240k to 250k is my guess.
     
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  15. IloveGT

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    I am so confused here.....
     
  16. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    Yes, assuming balloon finance.
     
  17. mkraft3003

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    Are you now talking about a 36 month loan? I think you really need to sit down with your dealer and go over exact numbers and work out the different scenarios with them. If you have the car On Order they would be happy to discuss everything with you. You’ve thrown out 60 month balloon, 72 and 84 month, 36 month. Again, your best best is to call your dealer and go over what works for you. Good luck.
     
  18. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    Sorry, no I'm not talking about a 36 month loan. I will likely do a 60 month balloon finance to keep the monthly payments around the $3k range. What I'm saying is I'll likely flip out of the car in 3 years hence the reason why I stated 36 months.
     
  19. mkraft3003

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    Look at my figures on page 1. Your payments are around 1700-1800 with 125k down. The current FFS rate is 3.74 and the balloon is 60%. You are only paying interest on the 59 payments. It is a very easy formula to work with. Use a auto balloon calculator on the web and you can plug in your MSRP, rate of 3.74, 59 payments and balloon on 60th payment, cash down, final balloon payment (which is 60% of MSRP) and you get your monthly payment. Here is a website to use. https://www.carpaymentcalculator.net/calcs/balloon-loan-amortization.php. Please call your dealer and they will confirm everything with you. These figures are for a new F8 spider and they vary with models and new/used.
     
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  20. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    Thanks.

    Also, I would say that I disagree with some of the members stating proposed value at $250k in 3 years. I'm seeing pre-owned F8s that are over a year old (coupes) with 3-5k miles that are still selling above MSRP second hand.
     
  21. IloveGT

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    whoi is buying pre-owned F8 coupe at such mileage over MSRP??? the salesman must be good or the buyer clueless.
     
  22. harrish1985

    harrish1985 Formula Junior

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    There's clearly significant demand. Go on cars.com or autotrader.com and see for yourself. They're mostly all above MSRP pre-owned.
     
  23. SoCal to az

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    The F8 like every 3 year old Ferrari will be old news. I bought a 2016 488- msrp of 329k for 315 with 600 miles in December of 2016. I sold it in April of 2019 to make room for my Pista for 230k.

    The F8 will be no different. Your expectation of the value of the car in 3 years is unrealistic. As others have stated, the car will cost you about 100-125k to own during that time.

    If you pay 415k car will sell for sub 300k in 3 years. That’s all I know. The rest I’m confused like @IloveGT
     
  24. SoCal to az

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    I just checked Autotrader. There are a bunch of cars selling (asking) in the mid 300k range. Yours is a 400k plus spec. Higher spec cars depreciate more. Look at the 500k Pistas selling for much less than Msrp.

    Take the future value into consideration when making your financial arrangements.
     
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  25. Natkingcolebasket69

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    Amen


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