Ferrari F80

You didn't accidentally stab yourself with a sedative, or hallucinogen - or both, have you?

 

Don’t like the W1’s looks either. Seems like just another Mac iteration. There’s a lack of creativity and again, too much engineering.

 

However even all the money in the world wouldnt touch this crap. Too bad Ferrari cannot / wont build a car like the T50

 

Thing is gonna be badass in person.

 

The The v6 sound is really garbage.

 

I like the T50 but I have a bone to pick.
It’s not sexy enough. People will not drool over it in a car show.

But I can accept this as this was Murray’s intention— to not stand out. So if that is what you want along with a crazy freaking amazing engine, the T50 is your car.

 

Why would any1 pay 4 millions for a V6 which sounds like garbage.

 

As questionable as the car physically presents it will undoubtedly have serious presence in the flesh. Why it wasn’t powered with an exceptionally high reving V8 or V12 is hard to fathom given Lambo lastest 10,000rpm v8 and its not even a range topper.

 

The problem IMO is the "transformer" trend. In an effort to wow people designers are throwing everything they can think of into a design. It's visually gratuitous and shows a lack of restraint. Byproduct of the Michael Bay School of Design

 

I think Ferrari has a magnificent design language from the 60’s, and they seem to be intentionally running away from it with this car rather than stretching and enlarging the boundaries.

maybe they are getting bored. It’s not out of the realm of possibilities. Sometimes you have to break a few eggs. Look at the Countach.

 

4 millions for a V6!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 

Manzoni lacks the talent of Pininfarina.

 

It's funny how random renders you find on social media look better than Ferrari's finished product. Hell, that one might even be AI which still can't make a human hand properly.
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This V6 should be revving to 15'000RPM like the F1 cars (at least 13'000RPM).

Sadly Ferrari is run by bean counters now.

 

I feel almost exactly the same as you. I like it, I don’t love it and don’t dislike it. The team has taken a design language that I don’t necessarily care for and made it look quite good. I also do design work and from that angle feel this car is a better design than the Daytona SP3.

 

Ohh trust me... Id take a 288 almost over any of these. But a lot of these cars went through periods where they were not desirable and then in retrospect they become beloved.

I am not at all taking away from those cars just pointing out that all of these things go through their ups and downs and really since COVID... All the cars are now bestowed as the pinnacles. But it was not always that way.

 

So I guess 288 and f40 are junk?

I can't get with you in the w1. I guess if you find dust buster vacuum cleaners sexy ... Lol. That car is about as generic and unimaginative as they come. It will also drive like a PlayStation

 

Exactly. No excuse for not upping the rpms to lift the excitement. Although they haven’t forgotten how to charge a premium. Cant believe the price.

 

Looks like mr Manzoni and team deliberately making bad design choices.. They are following tesla or polester design trends.. What's this si fi, space, ufo design...?

 

Quite possible. The idea of having no rearward vision should go towards making the driving experience difficult to manage. Its as if frustrating the crap out of driver with the unecessarily complex hapitic interface wasn’t enough to slow buyers from lining up. Manzoni probably figured by slapping the unpopular black band across the nose again, removing all rearward view entirely, and then quadrupling the price may finally do the trick.

 

I just read the whole thread from the beginning, my takeaways are that it looks like a lego car, the front and front 3/4 views are unsuccessful, the large chicken wire is bizarre as is the black stripe. The rest of the front design doesn’t flow and I think it is the harsh vertical sides by the front wheels that aggravate the design. The car is more successful from the rear with a purposeful and more flowing design.

The F80 sort of reminds me of the carrera GT which always felt to me like two different cars bolted together in the middle.

From an engineering perspective it is cutting edge, I don’t favor the V6 but it is what is currently used in F1 and in the Les Mans winning car so it is simply a sign of the times.

The cabin looks very cramped, similar to the 296.

Overall I would say the engineering is in keeping with what Ferrari should do with the halo car which is to push engineering and performance. From a design perspective I think it is a missed opportunity. The lines just don’t flow, the car is purposeful and will undoubtedly have presence but it’s unattractive and that’s a shame because it didn’t have to be.

Those TOP clients that were allocated a car will also be wondering about the $4.5m price tag. The car will undoubtedly trade at some premium but you have to factor in all the losses on the other cars. Not sure from a numbers perspective the “game” works and if you are VIP and just occasional nice crumbs (like an 812C coupe) the game definitely doesn’t work. Some collectors won’t care and will be happy to get to spec a Ferrari supercar from new and to them I say congrats.

The rest of us can opine all we want and rant and rave on the internet, but the car is sold out and will keep contributing to Ferraris bottom line. In the next annual report we will probably see that the profit on each F80 was in excess of €2m.

 

Shareholders will be happy,nothing left on the table.However having a $4+ million 'asset' sitting in the garage potentially earning zero $ for a few years might raise a few eyebrows.To Billionaires it's peanuts of course compared to the Biz jets and Yachts etc.

 

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The Icona series might be the place where the V12 Prancing Horse heritage will be retained.

 

what an ugly looking thing. basically an xj220