Ferrari F80

There’s a saying in Chinese about “adding feet to a snake” that in my opinion applies to Ferrari’s recent design language. As @TheMayor said several pages ago this technical marvel isn’t “art.” Posters of cars on walls should be art, not a spreadsheet of numbers that will never actually be achieved during the little real driving these will ever see.

 

Still ugly.
Spectacular though.

 

He was just having some fun with the, err, ‘challenging’ design.

 

I am not sure what logos has to do with this, but anyway. What I was saying is that cylinder count on itself is meaningless. Sure, we all love a high revving N/A V12, but is an old Ford/GM pushrod better than a state of the art V6 just because it has two extra cylinders? An engine should be judged by their power, tractability, responsiveness, smoothness, sound etc and not by the number of cylinders/valves/turbos it has. Using a food analogy, it the execution of the recipe (the end flavour if you may) that counts and not the ingredients that the cook used. This Ferrari V6 is a masterstroke and a much better engine than many others with more cylinders...

Please read my comment above. What is wrong with using a 6 cylinder if it is better than a competitor's 8 cylinder? You referenced the Temerario. Ferrari's V6 is a much better engine. Would you be happy if the F80 had a V8 with less power and worse response (no electric turbos for example) and noise than the current V6, just because of the cylinder count? Don't judge a book by its cover.

Single turbo, actually.

 

Well, the Enzo was divisive (I still don't like It) and now it has tripled it's value, so who knows.

Getting back to the technical aspects: are the turbos electric? Does it has recharging through the turbos like in F1.or the AMG One?

 

Depends on your age a lot... I graduated high school in 2003... so Enzo is actually my favorite, was the ultimate "poster car"

Same reason why Lamborghini Diablo's are going up in value now too... now that millennials have money to buy their dream cars.

 

Single turbo, actually.

This would stagnate development, which is against the ethos of Ferrari. There are lesser Ferraris (i.e. the Roma) for people not caring about ultimate perormance.

Much less than that, more like 1600 kg.

Are you clairvoyant? Do you also know the lottery numbers?

 

I’m really pleased with this cockpit. They finally moved away from the horizontal horizon design. Something about that left way too much real estate in the midsection of the interior. F80 looks much more driver centric. Almost Porsche

 

The interior is cool, almost has an sparse prototype lemans car vibe.

 

Yea the off set seats are cool too

 

The ICONA series does kind of throw one. Especially with the Daytona. It seems like that car should’ve been the new halo supercar. F80 looks like it could also just be another SP series.

 

The F80 reminds me of a Porsche, of all things, specifically the 956/962.

From the small narrow bubble cockpit, to the enormous side sills, to the long flat rectangular shape based on aero. And of course, the 6 cylinder engine and Le Mans connection.

They’re both designed more for speed than beauty, though some will subjectively find them beautiful, while others will just see a brutish design.

 

It would be technically and aerodynamically inadequate as a hypercar. The SP3 is just a slower LaFerrari Aperta, with retro styling.

 

Ferrari says the DRY weight of the SF90 is 1600kg or 3527lbs. Brooks weighed his with 1/8th tank of gas at 3937lb. So real world weight is more like 4000lbs. Hmm. It must take A LOT of fluid to add up to 400lbs+.

Ferrari says the DRY weight of the 296 is 1470kg or 3241lbs. Magazines and members on this forum have weighed theirs at 3680lbs to 3750lbs. Geez...There are those 400-500lbs of fluids again.

Hmm...either Ferrari LIES about the weight of their cars (shocking I know), OR they take double the amount of fluids than every other car on the planet. I think we know which one it is...

Btw...what's the general consensus on the SF90/296 vs the McLaren 765LT in terms of being more visceral and exciting? Exactly. The F80 and W1 follow in those same footsteps. I've owned both (296 and 765). It's not even a fair comparison to which one is more visceral. 296 is a great car...except those silly buttons. One is now gone and one is still in the garage...

Koolaid anyone??

 

I’ll take this one I reckon..
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I actually think it looks better with the black stripe.

 

look straight out of cyberpunk 2077 and surely will be very fast

but still i like it, very scifi very 2024 and some of their wec hypercar

the best thing is that it stir the mind get people talk about the gone v12 and the suppose supercar styling

 

Funny I am more excited about the AM Valhalla than the F80. Both F1 derived and IMO similar aero tech. One however attainable at 1/5 of the cost of the F80 with the possibility of more "racier" versions, the other a bloated "bend over" to get one unobtanium. Yeah value's bla bla bla - but one will be driven the other not IMO

 

But will the market be $7m? You can buy a tremendous amount of amazing cars (including Ferraris for that). I know there are some people for which money is no object but even luxury goods tend to be grounded in some sort of relative value. I guess time will tell.

 

Extrapolating from different cars is hard to do, but since you went down that road... Ferrari claims 1570 kg dry for the SF90 Stradale in its lightest form. Magazines and customers have weighed in their examples at less than 1700 kg (i.e. https://www.autocar.co.uk/car-review/ferrari/sf90-stradale - fully fuelled and with many options, and this was on the heavy side; there are even lower figures). Saying that the F80 claims 1525 kg dry, but will actually weigh more than 1780 kg is nonsensical.
Regarding how the cars will drive. anything at this point is pure conjecture and fantasy talk.

 

Well I think I will pass on this allocation.

Makes me feel better to turn down Ferrari before they turn me down!
Hahahaha!

anyhow, I would sell a couple of cars and buy this if I really was offered one. I think it is very cool in both looks and tech. I would even order in red…

 

Yellow one vid

https://www.instagram.com/reel/DBRDKBXq8_k/?igsh=MTAxazh0dnVjcmx4OA==

 

Stick to bmw’s, wrong forum.

 

Who would pay $7mm for a car with basically the same engine as a 296?

 

One could say that it is basically the same engine as in a 499P. This argument is moot. Not to me ntion that technically the 296 and the F80 share only the basic rhitecture. Different block, internals, turbocharges etc.