Ferrari Enzo #399 of #399

That boggles the mind. How could 5 cars have the same VIN? What would happen if 2 cars tried to register in the same state? Crazy.

 

I'm not commenting on the moral standing of car factories, but what I am saying is POST-PRODUCTION cars happen. Welcome to the world of Ferrari et al.

 

Yes, I agree with you on that.

 

The label "post-production" sounds like an attempt to legitimize the behavior of making extra cars.

Nobody likes a semantics argument, save perhaps a semantician.

 

So if I put up my Enzo for sale in 50 years and some other guy says my Enzo can't be genuine because he also has an Enzo with the same S/N and can prove it, you don't think that would affect the value of the car?

 

All of this adds to the story. As long as it's an authentic supercar from Ferrari, you can bet it will appreciate handsomely, all other things being equal. And all other things are not holding steady, but moving in a direction that will increase the demand. So the prices will climb even higher as the market size increases. Whether it's 399 or 450, the total made is a small number compared to the demand. Which is projected to increase.

 

Post-production cars are very common in the Automotive industry!

By your analogy, clearly Ferrari are semamticians, and they might take that as a compliment.

 

Yep!

 

But that's my point. How can you prove authenticity 50 years from now when the people that actually built the car are dead and there's only records for 1 S/N? You can't have 2 sets of records for the same S/N, so someone is going to have to lose out.

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This reminds of the book "The Lost Spyder".....great read if you haven't.

 

Perhaps someone can quantify the production differences between "production" and "post-production" ??

Is there something tangibly different about the production process itself? Or is it nothing more than defining a point-in-time, at which "production" ends and "post-production" begins?

 

Good question.

As I understand it, "production" cars are those built to original spec in the quantity planned by the manufacturer. This means the manufacturer accepts orders from their dealer network to fulfill the planned amount of cars. The cars are built systematically & continuously on a planned production line until the planned amount are completed. Then the production line is closed. In the case of the Enzo the intended amount was clearly stated per the plaques in the cars.

As I understand it, "post-production" cars are as the name suggests: cars built AFTER the planned production number has been completed. Accordingly, post-production cars are not due to orders caused by the dealer network, but rather are built to satisfy a number of extenuating circumstances, usually at special request and always at the discretion of the manufacturer - eg: cars built to replace crashed cars, VIP client requests, and on & on. These cars are not built systematically & continuously on a planned production line, but rather are built randomly as the factory sees fit. Accordingly their specification could vary slightly. There is no intended amount with post-production cars, and, there is generally one reason they are built by its profit-making manufacturer at the end of the day - monetary.

As regards numbers, Ive always borne in mind what the late great T.C Browne once said: "There are lies, damned lies, and then there are car manufacturer's statistics". Of course, he was not referring to any one particular car company. I try and take it all with a pinch of salt.

 

historians, record keeping, lore. Take your pic.

Or, don't buy one. See how easy it is? Just. Don't. Buy.

Done.

Btw, there's a saying about there being no stupid questions. It's wrong.

 

Do the 'post production' Enzo's also have the 1 of 399 plaque?

In the case of the Enzo, was the production line closed immediately after the 399th customer car?

 

Yes.

No.

 

I heard somewhere that there was a 288 done in this fashion? Something about an interesting character that became friends with Enzo at a young age.

 

Thanks for confirming.

 

Regards the 288, I guess 'post production' by the definition applied above is once the Group B requirement of 200 homologated road cars had been met.

Most manufactures made 200 road and 50 race. Although demand for Ferrari's (and Porsche's 959) road offering exceeded the FIA requirement.

 

You are the test-case for bringing a Eu/ROW Enzo into compliance in the USA, and clearly it is no smaller matter in terms of both cost & time!

 

So far so good...but please can someone explain to me why the seatbelts and ECU (for ECU is probably for the emissions)? Did Enzo has 4points seatbelts?

Thank you in advance.