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Ferrari as my first supercar?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by HoustonNoProblem, Mar 17, 2024.

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  1. HoustonNoProblem

    Mar 16, 2024
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    Hi all,

    I just joined and am excited to be here. I am one of those guys that grew up in the 80s with (red) F40 and Countach posters on my walls and am finally at a point in my life that I can afford a supercar. I love the look, refinement and performance of Ferrari.

    The vehicle will be a weekend car for me and will not be raced or tracked. I have been doing extensive due diligence over the past couple months, including test drives, speaking with popular exotic mechanics in my area, and online research.

    Before I settle on a mid engine ICE V8 F car, I wanted to “rule out” other options in a similar price point. These are:

    -Mclaren 720s
    -Huracan (various editions)

    The more common issues I have learned for 458/488 are sticky buttons, dash and headliner issues (esp in hot climates). Any others I should know about?

    Also, some of the repair costs I have read online are downright scary ($40k, etc). I was thinking of buying from an F dealer and having a PPI. Do I need to be reasonably worried of a major repair? Should I go for a 720s or Huracan instead?

    would you be 458 have less potential major repairs being NA than a 488? Or would a 458, bring older, have more potential for injury repairs? TIA

    Thanks
     
  2. Kent Adams

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    Sticky buttons (yes it will happen with all of them eventually, but easy fix with a little elbow grease and cleaner, leather stretch on the dash and binnacle would be a concerned to me too if I lived in Houston TX and left the car out in the sun. This is real leather, so it can stretch in the hot sun, but not a huge issue in the hands of an upholster. The $40k issue you mentioned was probably the DCT transmission. When the cars were first produced, they could develop faulty speed sensors that would malfunction. At that time, no one was removing the transmission and repairing it, they would simply replace it. Now you can simply replace the electric harness in the transmission. Still expensive, but no where near $40k. This is not as likely of a repair, but it has happened.

    I'm on my 2nd Ferrari, F430 was my first and now I have a 458. The most important thing to me when buying used is to buy one that is well documented, been garaged during ownership etc. I would "buy" the previous owner over the type of Ferrari. The 488 is faster and more modern, but the 458 sounds better and looks wise, I think it just looks better. However, those are all personal tastes. If you buy a well taken care of car, the biggest adjustment isn't repair bills, it's getting used to all the attention you get, especially with the red cars, both good (mostly) and bad (rarely).

    I wouldn't worry too much around repairs. Just make sure the car doesn't sit for extremely long periods of time, get out and drive it. It's like having your own personal roller coaster ride and amusement park, the driving experience is unlike any other car you've ever owned.
     
  3. Ghouselaw

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    Kent Adams gave you a perfect response. He is absolutely correct in everything he wrote. So I will just move along to the McLaren/ Lamborghini part. I was looking at both of those before going with a 488. The McLaren has a high risk of being in the shop a lot. It looks great especially with the doors open. But it’s not a Ferrari. The Lambo Hurracan felt very claustrophobic to me. Not a lot of leg room narrower seats and I would a say a little less refined than my 488. Great car no doubt. But there’s a certain elegance, in my opinion, that the 488 has over the Hurracan. But again, it’s personal preference in the end. Good luck.
     
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  4. HoustonNoProblem

    Mar 16, 2024
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    Very helpful, thank you for your time. Ugh, just saw my post had typos. Sorry to all for the sloppiness! Was writing late at night on my phone.

     
  5. Kent Adams

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    I would describe Ferrari as the gentleman's supercar. It is sophisticated and extremely capable, but without the need for in your face braggadocio.
     
  6. HoustonNoProblem

    Mar 16, 2024
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    #6 HoustonNoProblem, Mar 17, 2024
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    Thank you. The more I read F owner responses, the more I think I’m an F kind of person. I totally agree with the claustrophobic feel of the Huracan. Honestly, I don’t even think I’m a “modern lambo” guy. I much prefer the Murcielago, Diablo and Countach. However, a general consensus seems to exist that due to the Huracan essentially being an Audi, it makes for a safe bet in terms of reliability.

    I have read the concerns about the 720s, however interestingly enough an independent, experienced Ferrari mechanic (who has worked on Mclarens), said they are not more unreliable in his experience. I have read that choosing a 2nd year 720s, proactively replacing the turbo inlets, and keeping it on a trickle charger prevents many of the issues people may experience.

    I have driven both the 458 and 488. I like them both. I prefer the styling of the 458 somewhat, and many seem to think that it will retain value better. I think I’d be happy with either one.

    Between the two, isn’t it safe to assume that the 488, being that it has turbos, might have somewhat higher potential repair costs if something goes wrong/the turbos adds another possible point of failure?

     
  7. HoustonNoProblem

    Mar 16, 2024
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    Agree! Multiple folks tell me that the non hypercar F models do not get the attention at Cars and Coffee, etc that Macs do, though ultimately this is for me and not others. They also tell me the F crowd tends to be older. Again, no issue for me but found it amusing. Read about getting negative attention. I hope not! I want anyone to be able to sit in it and enjoy it, especially kids. I am a simple guy and would hate for people to assume that I’m a ****** bag. This is just about me fulfilling a childhood dream, not about showing off.
     
  8. Kent Adams

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    Younger people I have found, and I was one myself at a certain time, love the doors on the MClarens and Lamborghini's, gives it a more "exotic" look when opening the door. I don't disagree with that at all. That would be fun to have for awhile, it's kind of showy so to speak. But......there are more circumstances where I don't want to "show-off" than there are circumstances I do. The Ferrari is kind of the perfect balance for me in that respect. I don't want the attention of the "bro or that's fire" crowd.

    In regards to bad experiences, for me it's been assumptions made when I tell people I have a Ferrari. People will judge you, mostly out of envy or assume you are an a*hole pompous pig. None of my co-workers know I own a Ferrari. None of my clients know I have a Ferrari. That's on purpose. Heck, I think I've made a mistake when I bought an RSQ8 as my daily driver. I never thought of an Audi as envy inducing, I just thought of them as a fancy VW. They're only aspirational to me when I was a teen, but not as an adult. But I've since learned that for a lot of people, even Audi's are aspirational well into adulthood. To me, they're ok, but from a reliability and general use, Lexus is far better in all aspects, except Lexus doesn't make a crossover with 600hp/600lb ft of torque. Otherwise, I wouldn't own an Audi, I would have continued with my Lexus SUV. I never got vibes of envy when owning a Lexus. People see them for what they are, upscaled Toyota's.

    Good luck with your choice. I think the 488 will be my next car, simply for the speed bump, but who knows, I may not take the next step. F8 is out of my budget (I'm too heavy in real estate leverage and I'd rather keep my real estate), but I love the looks of them. I've made it a point not to drive cars out of my budget, except for the Purosangue, which I test drove. It's no faster than my RSQ8, actually handles worse, but it's far better looking and more luxurious. If I lived in Switzerland and I needed an SUV, it would be my first choice.
     
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  9. I know this is cliche and hackneyed, but buy the car that speaks to you.

    All the cars you've listed, Lambo, Mclaren, Ferrari, etc., will have their problems and each has their own pros/cons.

    There is no perfect car, supercar or otherwise.

    For example.

    The Mclaren is great, supercool suspension, fast as bat s1hit, but those dihedral doors are a pain in the ass, and the high sill on the carbon makes ingress/egress worthy of yoga lessons.

    The Lambo? Nothing beat the sounds of a NA V10, right behind your ears, but the visibility (while not as bad as an Aventador) makes you feel like your piloting a tank sometimes, with the periscope "down" and the cabin while providing a good driving position, is a bit cramped.

    The Ferrari (either the 488 or F8) is not as lithe and light on its feet and feels slow compared to the 720s, and the steering while fast can be twitchy, but the fit and finish (esp. the leather if you get it) is some of the best in the business.

    You really can't go wrong with any of them, just buy the one you like, not the one that the peanut gallery here recommends.

    Good luck.
     
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  10. Kent Adams

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    :rolleyes:. No matter which car you choose, there is always a guy like this in it. :D
     
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