Ferrari 360 Modena - stock or modded

Having had both, I find that guys who buy Ferraris keep them stock and guys who buy Lamborghinis do all sorts of mods. Compare this forum to the Lamborghini forum and see how different the conversations are.

Me, if I'm shopping and see an ad for a Ferrari with mods, even non-stock wheels, I keep looking.

Besides the basics like headers and exhaust, don't do anything that can't be undone.

 

Of course, everyone to it's own but I know the majority will say stock but the majority is not you since you modded your Ferrari already. Enjoy the car the way you want it and not how the next buyer would like it. If we think of the next buyer then it's like asking somebody "how do you want your future girlfriend to look like? Let me prepare her for you."

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Just wanted some views on whether owners, or prospective owners, thought that a 360 Modena should be kept stock or is modded OK? Tastefully modded

If modded what types of mods are acceptable and will not lead to a depreciating asset.
For example are carbon fiber parts on the interior good or bad? Not a fan of carbon fiber interior parts unless it's a Stradale.

Do suspension or engine mods add or reduce value in the car? Majority will say the latter, but I'm ok with this. I'll actually pay more for a properly tuned and stanced Ferrari over a stock one. 360s and 430s are not a rare car, if it's a Dino then it's a different story.

How far can one go? As far as it pleases you and makes you feel proud driving it.

Making a stock Modena look like a Challenge Scud (rear challenge grill, Challenge wheels, Challenge front grills) is this acceptable? Desirable and tasteful mod.

I have carried out a few mods to my car but retained most of the replaced stock parts in case. Is this wise? Keep the stock parts for an easier sale in the future.

My car came with a black alarm key and I have purchased a new set of fobs just in case.
It also came without tool kit, charger, tire inflator. I have bought the 2 former items but does this really add value? YES IT DOES to the majority that's looking for a stock Ferrari. BUT IT DOES NOT and simply nice to have for the other end of the spectrum that like a modded Ferrari.

What do you guys think? Enjoy the car the way you want it. Have it your way.

 

I find that as I have owned more Ferraris I prefer stock more and more. That said, of late, Ferraris have had more options. The last "plain" Ferrari I had was a Mondial t Cabriolet. You had a choice of exterior color, interior color, soft top color and an optional spare tire. That was it. I do enjoy the factory options on my 360 Spider (Modular Wheels, Challenge Grill, Rear Speakers, Colored Stitching) but I abhor aftermarket "custom" wheels and carbon fiber "farkles" and overly loud exhaust systems. Pininfarina did a nice job on the 360; who am I to think I can improve on a timeless design.

If you mod it; keep all the OEM parts for reinstallation when you want to sell and realize top dollar. Then unload your mods for pennies on the dollar.

 

My .02
Make your car your car. As Jam said. I have no problem personalizing my cars.
When I was looking at a 360 to buy I didn't feel like aftermarket wheels or exhaust was a big deal for me one way or the other and in fact I wanted a Challenge rear engine grill on the car. I look at it as I'm buying the car not the add ons-- and to be sure wheels and exhaust are only add on stuff that is easily removed and stock stuff put back in place. So with that said if you have the original stuff when you sell the car I think you will be fine. I recently went through this with a car I just sold. Keeping the original parts was a plus to the buyer but was more like making the car more sell-able but not necessarily more valuable-- as in worth more $$.

I think it's also an issue of condition and mileage. If you have a considerably low mileage 360 in excellent condition then keeping it original is probably a good idea (other than wheels if you so choose). Higher mileage "average/ decent" cars I don't think it's as much of a deal breaker.

Personally I'm not a big fan of the carbon fiber on the interior. Kind of passe to me.
The tool kit (complete) all the books, radio card, red fob, and of course fairly good maintenance records were definately important to me. Kind of a harbinger of someone who took good care of the car.

It's funny that no matter the marque; Porsche, Lambo, Ferrari, etc., there seems to be two kind of owners. Dead nuts original or mildly modified. When I was younger I was in the Dead nuts original camp. Not anymore.

 

Do what makes you happy. I personally could not leave any of my cars stock, been modding Cars since I was old enough to drive.

And you really don’t want your car to sing?

 

I agree with do what makes you happy. These are not (yet) collectible cars and you should do what you enjoy.

Having said that, DEFINITELY hold onto any stock parts. MOST (not all) mods will detract in value and reduce number of potential buyers. In addition to the fact that more buyers prefer stock, mods are personal and likely to offend as much as they attract.

Having said *that*, the mods I would generally find desirable are those that were available from the factory. Challenge grills, yes. Upgraded OEM wheels, yes. Even if these items were not on the original build, I think they generally enhance value because they are "natural mods."

To me the worst mods you can do are ride height, oversize wheels that don't fit the car, engine mods (cardinal sin) and other things like that.

I bought my car absolutely bone stock and showroom condition (12 years after production). I added CS TCU, clear film protection, passport radar, nav stereo and a carbon fiber cup holder. All things to enhance my enjoyment of the car. kept all the stock bits for the next owner, if there ever is one.

 

Having bought a stock 360 Modena, except for a few exhaust mods, High flow capristo cats and capristo stage 2 exhaust system.

Image Unavailable, Please Login I say that Ferrari did a good job when they came out with our cars interior. I rather prefer an original car over a weird funky modified one that others look at and ask themselves why....

Carbon parts for weight savings on 98% of our cars will never make a difference that we will notice.

Stock wheels are still very nice, but some prefer a pimped out look... my original rims still work at 160mph.... so far highest I've gone.

You could spend a lot of money doing mods only to never recover the time and expense occurred. I passed on a few nice cars with weird pieces here and there only because I wanted a drivers car to enjoy the driving experience over a concourse garage queen.

To each their own... Just enjoy what you want if money is not a big worry.

 

I was glad to find a moderately modded car...I sold the mods, returned it to stock (mostly) and pocketed the extra $$$




...okay so it went back into the car anyway, but still...

 

Ok im going to be blunt... to me i think only felestine would mod that much their cars... u see it mostly on the 360 bc it is a cheap ferrari; the entry level one... can be purchased for the low 60’s now which is less than a e63.
I would do this to an amg but not to my ferrari (exhaust aside) that being said i would agree that if u do change parts keep the original...will serve u down the line.
Again i like mods but just not a Ferrari


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I don’t care if people mod their cars, I think it looks ugly but what you think is what matters. Make it yours all day as long as you realize that if you go to sell it, potential owners probably do not want a car that you made yours.

The exception of course is for aftermarket replacements for parts that Ferrari made poorly that cause problems, like bushings or headers or whatever (not “upgrades”). If you go to sell it, the next buyer will appreciate having the fixed version.

 

As Allen & KGC indicated, some say 'mod' but I say personalize.
That's what I did. I personalized my car for me. Don't care what others say esp for resale.
Resale value will be a problem for my estate.

 

Purchased my new to me 360 spider with some mods I wanted and some not so much.
430 wheels. Prefer the look over the starfish or modular wheels. Currently black. Will refinish to OEM silver this winter.
Challenge grills front and rear.
Tubi muffler. Better than stock but prefer Capristo or, the ultimate, CS system.
Carbon fiber air boxes. Will purchase and replace with stock over the winter.
High end stereo. Best install I have ever seen. OEM quality. In my 60s. Will replace this winter. Will install a unit that will pair with my phone. Don't need a stereo that shakes the cars adjacent to me!

 

Ferraris are odd. Put too many miles on it (regardless of how well they are built) and its worthless, modify it in any way and its worthless.... it gets a little old. The Porsche and hotrod guys are quite a bit more fun to hang out with. I personally don't think many mods look particularly good on a 360, but out of principle, I believe all cars purchased to be a toy should be personalized a bit. Enjoy it, make it your own. Resale is a total disaster on these cars right now so don't think about it too much.

 

Ferraris are not odd, it's just an object. The Ferrari market is odd. What makes the market? Current Ferrari owners that influences the market's valuation of our cars. We are killing our own car's value!

This is exactly the impression I got after buying my Rari. The majority wanted to treat their 360/430 like it's a rare La Ferrari, F40, F30 or any of these likes. For these higher tier category, I agree with the majority 100% to keep your Ferrari stock BUT not with a mass produced 360/430. Maybe in the old days when every Ferrari is rare then the stock low miles treatment is crucial, but that's decades ago. Ferrari is already focused in mass producing their entry level models to survive.

If concern is resell then your car will look boring, cookie cutter and a rental. For 360/430, no point keeping it concourse example. It's not a rare Ferrari, sorry to burst anybody's bubble here. It's a nice Ferrari but not worth bubble wrapping.

If anybody's plan is to keep your Ferrari stock and just park, then might as well rent it when needed for $300 a day. Aside from it will look no different to rental Ferraris, renting is way smarter than owning a car you can't make your own, high ticket maintenance and can't drive because of not wanting the miles to go up.

Rant done....now back to your originally scheduled show....

 

All my vehicles are personalized and my 360 is no exception. I also buy it to drive and enjoy it, not to collect or invest. I bought the 360 with Novitec kit, NF2 wheels and Tubi exhaust.


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The problem with Ferrari's are that they are a high cost car that come with a lot of expectations. Specifically the expectation of an experience. The idealized version is driving down the road with the exhaust blaring on an autumn day with gentle country curves and perfect shifts. When that experience becomes the car sitting in the shop with a $10,000 to 20,000 bill at the end, peoples minds change quickly. The adage being if you couldn't afford to OWN a new 360, you probably can afford to own a used one. We'll see this part come into play as the prices get cheaper and more "it ran when parked" cars come up for sale.

I think when you buy a car that's entirely original, the experience is yours to make as you want. When the car is already very "unique" with odd colors and rims, the buyer is having to share the past owners unique ownership experience. Of course there is always the bias of "pimped out" = unmaintained. Because Ferrari ownership is such an individualized emotional experience and expectations of what that experience should be like, I don't think customized rides will ever be accepted in the Ferrari community like the JDM experience.

Ferrari owners also tend to live in la-la land. "Mass produced" at 18,000 cars over 5 years might be a lot of Ferrari's... but it's a week of Corollas. I've always contended that while it's just metal and plastic and leather at heart... my Ferrari is MY FERRARI. I treat her like an Enzo because she's MY FERRARI and she doesn't have to be an Enzo or LaFerrari to make me smile when I enter the garage. I'm always very questionable about the owner that thinks of a Ferrari they own as "only a Ferrari xxxxx". Makes me wonder if they think only in terms of Status symbols and if they've been on Rich Kids of Instagram lately. I know peeps that own newer cars and you don't get that vibe at all from Enzo and LaFerrari owners.

 

BOOM !!!

Of course i'm that guy that has wheels , lowered , spoiler , challenge grille , LED upgrade , twin turbos , stripes.......and much more to come !

 

PARAGRAPH 1: You hit the nail on the head with this one. Some folks are working around the "affording" maintenance part by not driving this masterpiece. Buy a Ferrari only when you (not you, I mean the general audience here) can really afford to drive and maintain one, not just to look at them. A 360/430 is one of them that is not rare gems which gives us every privilege to drive and enjoy IF the stigma is not there.

PARAGRAPH 2: This shouldn't hold anybody from making the car their own. Ownership will be boring if you don't make the car your own. Of course everyone to it's own with this topic, but you know what I mean. The key is keeping the original parts so the car can be customized and in the future brought back to stock to sell to the typical Ferrari buyer. Regarding the "JDM experience", it's not JDM or else Porsche's and Lamborghini's will be considered JDM as well. Customization and individualization is celebrated on these two platforms; whereas the complete opposite with majority of Ferrari audiences IMHO.

PARAGRAPH 3: I concur it's rare or more special compared to the rest of demographics or the commoners car. This is why we bought them so it will gives us a smile whenever we look at them and drive them. Unfortunately, most Ferrari owner are worried that the value will depreciate drastically if they do which kills the Ferrari experience.

THIS IS the testament of how current Ferrari owners, US- yes us dictates how the values of our cars will drop and how we can increase the value to. The majority considers a Ferrari with miles, modifications and without tires inflated with air from Maranello worthless. IF this thinking changes then more and more owners can enjoy their Ferraris to the fullest without being worried that it will be worth nothing if they do so. The 360/430 market has to change, and this can start here. Now let's drive our Ferraris the way Enzo wanted us to.

 

We need more guys like you to make 360/430 ownership more fun and without worry that it will be worth nothing if we do. We need fresh new discussions in this community, real customization topics (not the sarcastic ones that we already have titled "interesting mods") would be cool.

Below are the typical topics here
1. F1 vs gated - Boring, heard this a million times now.
2. My car is broken, help! - Anything new?
3. How do I maintain this car that I barely drive? -

We need fresh new topics like
1. Look what I did to my car today
2. I added this and that to make my car cool
3. I just had my 100k service
4. Does this wing or customization look cool on my car - I see you post these, keep them coming.

 

I have made some mods, and the previous owner made some mods. All were done to enhance the car, and the enjoyment I get from driving it. I’m not worried about resale, I don’t care if it don’t double my money on it, I bought it to drive and enjoy.

I’ve also been modding every car I’ve ever owned, and don’t see me stopping anytime soon. I’ve got too many tools not to put them to good use.

 

Here’s my 02: Almost all people interested in buying a Ferrari (regardless model), searches for for appropiate info prior to purchase.

What kind of info do they find? Mileage, mileage, original, AD service records, mileage, perfect interior (no bolster wear), mileage, few owners, and more mileage related...

No wonder we all fear using our newly purchased cars...

Everyone states the same: A car with high mileage is more or less useless and should be parted out. Same goes for modded cars - especially engine or gearbox mods...

Me? My car is yellow, has just above 20 000 miles on it, and I love it. I plan to do some mods to it that will enhance the way I feel about the car!

And I plan to drive it so other people around me can see all cool mods I have done to it!

I suggest you do too!

 

Totally agree. Can’t leave my 360 sitting in the garage.


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I never buy a car thinking about the next owner so I do with them as I please. If you are worried about the next owner then the car is an investment and should be treated as such. Personally I buy cars to drive not as an investment.