Ferrari 296GTB versus McLaren Artura on racetrack review!

We sure hope they do - the 296 is not competing with the Artura, it's on a higher segment (in terms of power and price).

 

I feel like the natural comp for the Artura is the NSX.

I can't really think of a natural comp for the 296 in the current market.

Again, just limiting it to hybrid drivetrains ...

 

Ferrari doesn't care about the Nurburgring. Personally, I would be much more interested in a Monza or La Sarthe (Le Mans) lap time.

 

Are you sure about that?

I am not.

 

As a Gen 2 NSX owner, it’s down 98 HP (down 71 HP for the Type S) to the Artura so on track likely to be behind it. If you count the time the Artura will be off the track for whatever goes wrong with it, maybe another story

Probably not in the mix as production is ending for the NSX

Agree 296 is in another sphere above Artura, a car that doesn’t seem to be winning hearts and wallets

 

For me personally, I just think it's not aesthetically pleasing.

Ok, ok, I'll say it. It's ugly.

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I had one for a day and I’d have to say it’s good looking in real life, better than the photos, especially this angle:

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The rear buttress thing I couldn’t like no matter how hard i tried though. The 296 did it so much better.

 

Um, I was talking about the 296 being ugly.

Artura? I'm ambivalent about. Looks pretty much like every other Mclaren. Senna and P1 being the exceptions.

 

Oh, I used to think the same then but after seeing it a few times in real life and taking my time studying it I absolutely love it!

It does still have a few design flaws though. The Headlight split not aligning with hood shut line, taillight shape is meh, the body colored-weirdly shaped vents in the rear, the small brake vents on the bumper sides looking like afterthoughts. But the overall lines of the car are beautiful in the flesh.

 

296 price and specs in line with 765LT/720S replacement (that is nowhere in sight given british carmakers' production delays).

 

the mclaren comes out much cheaper

 

I wonder how long McLaren will actually be around. Since the start of Covid they’ve just had their third cash injection Uk Pounds 100 million partly for “certain technical upgrades” for the Artura. This came from selling a bunch of rare cars to the Bahrain Sovereign wealth fund. That’s not including the UK Pounds 170 million sale and lease back of their headquarters. In all they have raised UK Pounds 945 million and still managed to lose UK pounds 260 million for the last three quarters. Sounds a bit like Aston!!!

 

Ferrari always struggled financially until Fiat bought them. Hard to be an independent technically advanced car company.


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Actually Ferrari is a very profitable business, unlike McLaren. And also is no longer part of Fiat, it was spun off some years ago.

 

When some sell their family jewels and Ferrari makes record figure and massively expands its factory

 

Which Ferrari company do you think it depends on?

 

The analogy is that Ferrari in its formative years needed to lean on a big Company to survive and advance production and technology. Fiat bought 50% of the Company in 1969 and 90% in 1988. In 2015, they went public to recover some of that investment. Fiat still controls approximately 23% of the shares and many board seats. It’s doing great now, but took many years.

Small niche sports car companies struggle. Porsche almost went under many times in the 80’s and 90’s. Lamborghini, Maserati, Lotus, Jaguar, Aston Martin etc all failed.

A small company like McLaren is no different. The capital reinvestment it takes to compete is draining and cannot afford many missteps along the way.


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This feature has always caught my eye. I did a quick p'shop a while back to see what it would look like had the shut line disected the headlight edge cleanly.

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Actually, the Agnellis did something brilliant. They spun off the firm, made it a publicly traded company, but they still retained absolute control. There are some clauses that ensure that Exor (the Agnelli's holding company) will always have majority voting rights, no matter how many shares they have. Combined with Pierro Ferrari, who owns 10% of the company himself, they can both have their cake and eat it too!

 

Correct!!



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