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Fabspeed Ferrari 360 High Performance Headers

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  1. Joe@Fabspeed

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    #1 Joe@Fabspeed, Dec 14, 2007
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    Fabspeed 360 High Performance Headers

    Fabspeed debut of the new Ferrari 360 Sport Headers are in stock and ready for shipping. The new headers will fit all Ferrari 360 cars (Coupe or Spider). New headers are designed to increase the amount flow coming out of the engine by creating an equal length flow through the header tubes and increasing tubing size for maximum flow and power and to match the exhaust flow equally between the cylinder heads and the header tubes. The new headers eliminate the use of the catalytic converter that are used in all Ferrari headers to reduce backpressure and increase power

    -All 360 cars 2000-2005
    -High performance replacement headers
    -Formula 1 Indy car high velocity merge collector for maximum flow and the least amount of stream obstruction
    -T304 stainless steel mirror polished
    -No check engine lights
    -Complies with 50 state emissions and with factory Ferrari warranty
    -All Fabspeed products are warranted for life
    -Fabspeed sport headers $2695 a set and group buys are welcome

    -All parts are in stock and ready to ship. We ship internationally as well
    -Feel free to email or PM me directly with any questions or pricing information you might have

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  2. RayJohns

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    Can you expand on the above statement. In other words, if I install these headers on my 360 and a California Smog station red flags my car because it doesn't have factory headers and fails a smog test, what exactly do I tell them and/or show them? Do I just say "Joefab" said they are legal?

    As to the Ferrari factory warranty - again my question would be along the lines of "if my motor burns #1 exhaust valve and FNA says something to the effect of 'you are on your own because you screwed with our motor and put non factory headers on' what exactly do you provide to save my ass?"

    Adding headers to my car is something I'm interested in doing at some point, but I would like some clarification before messing around with the emissions system on the car. If any paper work is provided with your product, it would be great to know about it in advance. Same with any sort of arrangement between you and FNA as far as any warranty sort of issues.

    BTW, nice welds!

    Thanks!

    Ray
     
  3. gothspeed

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    What are the HP gains if any?
     
  4. duskybird

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    Nice. As asked before any benefits?
     
  5. RichardCH

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    well you can be pretty sure that changing the cats first will yield more benefits
     
  6. PCH

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    Don't hold your breath waiting for a response. I believe we all know they haven't been sanctioned by Ferrari.
     
  7. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Hi,

    This is Joe @ Fabspeed Motorsports. Alex one of my employees made the initial post regarding our new 360 headers. I did not have a chance to PROOF the post and want to clarify a few things.

    All North American and USA spec Ferrari 360 cars have 6 catalytic converters as compared to European ROW cars. The 1st set of catalytic converters are jammed into the header collectors and then the remaining 4 catalytic converters (2 on each exhaust bank) are bolt-on catalytic converters.

    Some people have installed European headers to get more sports car sound and power. We developed these headers for the same reasons and to make even more power than factory headers at a competitive price point.

    As far as warranty and emissions. Technically it is illegal to remove or replace any catalytic converters on any emissions control vehicle vehicles. Ferrari as do most OEM European manufacturers never condone aftermarket products of any nature. This is typical but no company CAN summarily VOID your warranty just because you made a change unless the change caused the specific warranty problem.

    For example: if one installed a set of 19"/20" wheels on their 360/430 and the air conditioning failed-- Ferrari cant void the warranty nor can they not fix the A/C. If a person installs a set of CATBYPASS pipes and they complain that the check engine light is on..........that logically wouldn’t be covered. If you installed a set a 360 headers/race cats and then the CAM timing broke or the power windows stopped working that all should be covered as the modification could NOT have caused the warranty problem.

    Fabspeed 355 and 360 headers all utilize high velocity INDY car Formula 1 style merge collectors for maximum exhaust flow and scavenging and also are equal length.

    The inlet flanges are investment cast T304 stainless steel (lost wax casting methodology) for maximum OEM like flatness and durability and superior sealing.

    The header tubes are C.N.C. mandrel bent and are 1 piece wherever possible for maximum uninterrupted flow (no internal welds required) and gas purge TIG welded for maximum weld strength.

    Fabspeed is in the process of installing our new 4 wheel drive Dyno and we will be doing Dyno tests on all of our new products which will be posted right away.

    Thank you and let us know if there is anything else we can do.
     
  8. 360trev

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    Well explained,

    How much power is expected over the stock Euro headers? Any estimates?
     
  9. PCH

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    Regardless of how rational or irrational your comments may be, it will have no impact on Ferrari decision to void their warranty for replacing OEM parts with after-market parts.
     
  10. SoftwareDrone

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    Thank you for taking the time to clarify the intial posting on the headers. The design looks well thought out and they look fantastic!
     
  11. Brav

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    Can we see a before/after dyno sheet ?
     
  12. Shumdit

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    Actually they can't legally "void" your warranty. They can only deny coverage on a specific claim if they can prove the failure was related to the modification or non-oem part. Even JoeFab was a little off when he mentioned the Check Engine light could be denied, since the check engine light could come on due to the failure of a part unrelated to and unaffected by the headers, and in those cases they would be required to repair the issue under warranty. FNA likes to throw around their weight, but even they are not immune to the legal system we have in the US.
     
  13. Shark01

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    I had a Fabspeed exhaust on my 996TT until 2 months ago, and it threw codes all the time and caused me to fail inspection.....so I had to go back to stock and get re-inspected. CEL hasn't re-appeared since.


    if Fabspeed takes the lifetime warranty offer seriously, please contact me via PM about new cats.....
     
  14. Shark01

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    Fabspeed just wote back offering to fix my issue, total props........thanks Fabspeed!
     
  15. fuse

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    This may be slightly off-topic...

    I am being told by Ferrari dealer that FNA is seriously frowning on any mods on the Ferrari for warranty claims. Including lowering adjustment on the car w/o changing parts. (Example, lowering the giant wheel gaps for 599 and F430.) I am not suggesting that FNA can legally deny non-mods related claims, but they certainly can make it more difficult for the dealers and make it less likely for a dealer to want to perform these services that we may have become accustomed to.

    This was just being told to me last week. I am not posting to start a debate what FNA can or can't do, what is legal or not legal, what some dealers will or will not do. Just to inform that a memo from FNA to dealers regarding warranty and mods and may change what your dealer will or will not do for you, and the FNA may be battling you on warranty claim should the car be modified.
     
  16. 360trev

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  17. gothspeed

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    +1 ...............also do they come in "non-bling" satin???
     
  18. Brav

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    Also interested in ceramic coating.. not that we couldnt get it done ourselves after purchase.
     
  19. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Happy Holidays to everyone.

    Everyone likes to personalize their cars in some fashion. Simple bolt-on changes like wheels and exhaust systems and airfilters/airintakes should not void warranty. The United States has a law called the Magnuson Moss Act and it prohibits any manufacturer from voiding any warranty unless the specific modifications can be determined to have directly caused the warranty claim.

    Please look it up and print out a copy. Just show it any company for any reason if they try to deny warranty for no good reason. Keep a copy in your glovebox and at home. This act applies to any and all products for USA consumers...not just cars. The magnuson moss act was ceated to protect the USA consumer from bogus warranty denials and give us power. Ferrari NA cant summarily deny warranty and this act has been around for a long time. Ferrari is simply trying to intimidate people.........Porsche and other manufacturers have tried this all before with little success.


    Then again logic should prevail...........if one adds a Supercharger to their F430/599 or a Turbo kit/nitrous kit and hurts the engine.......cylinder(s) leakdown is excessive then the consumer RISK taker would have to pay to fix the engine fault. However, if the same Supercharged car RUNS great BUT the Airconditioning/power windows/stereo CD player/electric seats or something else UNRELATED does not work properly THEN these warranty faults are coevered under the warranty. Ferrari or any othr manufacturer has to cover that warranty issue by law.

    On the new Fabspeed Motorsports F355 and F360 headers and other systems we are having an all wheel drive DYNO facility installed right now along with a climate controlled dyno room with weather station. We will not have to chase around for dyno results and will verify our systems and componenets and of course test fellow Ferrari chatters cars.

    best regards
     
  20. Shumdit

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    I think I mentioned this earlier. See post #12. PM me for my address to send my comission check! LOL
     
  21. Brav

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    I am curious of the R&D and horsepower gains if there was no dyno available during development? Are there any numbers at all available? This is the only thing holding me back from purchase. They sure look pretty, but I'd like them to function as well :)

    Thanks
     
  22. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Fabspeed Motorsports new all wheel drive DynoJet DYNO is being installed right now so we will post results on all the new updated products. This will verify our new updated systems and componenets and of course test fellow Ferrari chatters cars. Let us know if you have any other questions and you can email me directly at [email protected]

    Thank you
    Alex@Fabspeed
     
  23. sezme

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    Hmmmm - Is there a difference between stock 360 headers and stock CS headers?

    S
     
  24. Joe@Fabspeed

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    Hey Sezme, the Ferrari 360 and CS headers and catalytic converters are exactly the same.
    Thanks,
    Alex@Fabspeed
     
  25. hotcello

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    Hi Alex
    any Dyno result yet? I am in the market for a set.
     

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