Fabspeed Buyer Beware (Leaking Headers) - UPDATE

A couple of observations:

1) Shouldn't the bungs be fitted with a copper crush washer? It aids sealing and also prevents loosening of the bung.
2) There are two types of ceramic coating: a cheap wet paint application that regularly fails, and when it does it tends to rub off in a powder-like form. The best (expensive) application is highly specialised and used by the likes of Zircotec. It too can fail if surface preparation isn't of the requisite standard, but it tends to come off in reasonably solid, large flakes.

 

No issues with my F430 headers, but they don't have a bung in each primary tube.

Seems an easy fix would be using a copper washer like mentioned, or just basic exhaust sealant paste on the threads of the bungs

Coating is cheap and the condition is expected IMO (I still bought it for mine, but also wrapped with exhaust heat wrap)

 

..clearly the "coating" they use a rubbish. That is true of the large majority of snake oil thermal coating out there. I have Fabspeed headers on my car (CS) and the fit is good, as noted above the bungs with stop leaking with a crush washer (surprised your mechanic didn't think of that). I used Swain coating on my headers and after 5 years and many track days they are still perfect other that a slight yellowing.

 

Too bad about the headers.

Good job on the engine bay - looks pristine

 

In the last pix, the copper washer inside diameter is not of the correct size. The washer should not be hanging off center like that.

The thermal coating looks like something from a shake and spray can as opposed to a true ceramic that is baked on in a real oven.

FabSpeed does not impress me!!!

 

It might be worth your efforts to tap the holes to ensure full thread engagement and buy a longer bung so the correct size copper washer could be used.

 

Fabspeed developed headers for the 360 over 17 years ago. We've sold hundreds upon hundreds of sets successfully worldwide. In North America, we developed air injection lines for 360 headers for emissions purposes. Overseas, 360 Ferrari headers do not have air injection lines, and we send out the correct threaded plugs to block off the secondary air injection ports. We have not heard of issues with these plugs - threadlock or exhaust sealant could solve this issue. I'm very sorry to hear that you're having a bad experience and I would like to try and make it up to you in the future.

All Fabspeed headers go through rigorous quality control, including pressure and smoke testing for leaks. Unfortunately in this situation, all that was required was to have the threaded bungs tightened down further.

In regards to the coating, we are no longer offering this service and leaving up to the customer to choose the coating of their choice - we will ship directly to your coater of choice. We are in talk with several companies, such as Jet Hot, to be able to provide the highest quality solution to heat coating.

Purchase with confidence as I will personally inspect every order as it goes through quality control testing to ensure your order is perfect.

 

My FS headers are great. I don't understand why people shell out for the headers and skimp on the blankets. Got the full kit (headers, blankets, heat shields, O2 extenders, gaskets and hardware). I would not have even considered aftermarket headers without blankets. FS was easy to work with and the install and results are great. The car woke up significantly and sounds much better.


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Well...... That is one way to handle the situation.



I get that this could be just one complaint from one unhappy customer. But seriously, what the heck is going on over there and why so many complaints??



Fabspeed Class Action Lawsuit

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&rlz=1C1CHBD_enUS720US720&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=fabspeed+scam

Ripoff Report | Fabspeed Motorsport Complaint Review Ft Washington, Pennsylvania

 

Wow, I've never seen so many bad reviews, but if you look at the BBB site for them, they still seem get an "A" rating with no positive reviews and two fairly vicious reviews. How can that be? Makes me wonder after the veracity of BBB ratings.
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To be straightforward with you, the information you are seeing is a terroristic threat to us from a single person who goes by several aliases including the name Nick Naylor, whose real name is Sal Pain previously Sal Pane. He purchased a system through a distributor of ours (not through us directly), and had a failure of an O2 bung weld on his F430 due to a combination of improper installation of catted O2 spacers, track use, and him jumping a curb on his way to the track that day. We know this because I have several eye witnesses to the events that occurred, including myself as I was personally present at that track day. Instead of contacting the distributor he purchased the products from, he called Fabspeed directly and demanded a full refund and various other “costs” that came out to a “demanded total of $20,000”, which was $10,000 more than the cost of the parts he did not purchase from us. Despite our warranty policy clearly stating that this was not possible, we still went out of our way to offer warranty repair of the product with him directly, despite that he was responsible for the damage. He refused this, and threatened to ruin Fabspeed’s reputation as he “has all the money he needs and all the time in the world” if we did not send him a $20,000 check immediately. We refused this initial offer and asked for time to work with the distributor he purchased the parts from to accommodate a resolution that was fair for everyone involved. He hung up on the owners of the company and proceeded to drop the atom bomb on Fabspeed by hiring SEO companies to find every possible negative piece of information over our past 25+ years of business (most of which is falsely generated) to create a false “Fabspeed Sucks” agenda. We also discovered he has a past history if you take the time to google search “Sal Pain New York”, and we are now in the midst of creating a lawsuit against him for slandering Fabspeed.

We work day in and day out to improve the quality of service and products we offer to the sports car community. We do our utmost to work with even those who focus on taking advantage of our company. I am available any time day or night to chat about this situation in more detail to provide you with all the insight you need to move forward in confidence with any of our products.

 

Thanks Rob, much appreciated.

 

The BBB rating doesn't only count the number of complaints, it cares how they were addressed. EVERY business has complaints. Some are real, most are not.

And let's be real. 2 complaints isn't a lot. I bet more than 2 complain about me on a daily basis than.

 

+1

 

I installed my Fabspeed header w/ the blankets and test pipes 3 weeks ago and all is good. I'm very happy with the product.... no leaks, no cracks, no problems!

Thank You Travis!

 

I have the full system on my 355....still shiny and loud!! There will always be people that won't take responsibility for their own mistakes. All the best.

 

This issue of "complaints" has become a terribly big problem for businesses. Many of these complaints are unsubstantiated but once in print, there is little can be done to get them off. Some businesses now are hiring specialized lawyers to track down these complaints, figure out who they are and seriously threaten them. Seems like these threats can be removed.

 

Thank you Michael.

Anytime! Glad to hear you're loving the setup, any videos?

Glad to hear you're enjoying our exhaust suite Rob, and yes - unfortunately that's correct. Thank you for the words! Give me a shout if there is anything I can help with in the future.

 

How did the threads get "compromised" as you say they did?