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F8 Tributo: depreciation/stabilization/value appreciation?

Discussion in '458 Italia/488/F8' started by redcaruser, Jun 23, 2022.

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  1. redcaruser

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    This question has probably been asked many times before, but I have not found anything appropriate after the first search in this forum (I am usually only at home in the 430 forum), so please don't take it amiss if I come up with it now: I'm thinking of buying an F8 Tributo. Of course, this also raises the question of its value retention.

    How do you see it, will the F8 in the line of mid-engine Ferrari as the last with pure combustion engine special role can take? Does the F8 perhaps even have the potential to increase in value? I am more of a collector and am not looking to make a quick profit. But I would be interested in where this car might end up in the next ten to twenty years.

    In this regard, do you see a difference between Tributo and Spider?

    I have a F8 Tributo in mind which corresponds exactly to my expectations. The new car sales value was about CHF 350k, currently it is offered for CHF 310k, it was driven about 13'000km (about 8000 miles).

    Thank you in advance for your opinions and thoughts.
     
  2. todd cloud

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    the last pure combustion mid-engine Ferrari was the 458
     
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  3. mkraft3003

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    You should figure that it is a depreciating asset. If you are looking to buy as an investment you should look at something else. There are a lot of them produced and continue to be produced so it is not a collectible car like the Speciale. With that being said if you are looking to drive an awesome car and have fun than it’s a great purchase. Life’s too short to worry about what will possibly happen in 20 years.
     
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  4. Chizz

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    To partly answer your question, this is one of the few F8s I have heard being sold under MSRP. Possibly due to mileage. If it meets your likes then I would buy it. I believe these cars will hold their value very well given the nostalgia of it being the last V8 in the line. Appreciation as years go forward will be a difficult prediction given the economic conditions. Also, it’s a damn fine car. If you haven’t driven it you should then that will seal the deal for you.
     
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  5. redcaruser

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    Thank you very much for your feedback.

    I haven't driven the car yet, but I will soon.

    In Switzerland we have a lot of 488 GTB's (67) on offer, 22 of which are Pista's. From the F8 we have 29 cars on offer. The F8 is positioned between the GTB and the Pista in terms of price, whereby young F8s with few kilometers are priced more or less at the same level as many Pista's (the Pista Spider is excluded, which is priced at a much higher level). Since I have not yet dealt with these models so much I would be interested in how I can assess these models? Is the F8 on the level of a Pista (driving characteristics, desirability)? I have heard that the market entry of the F8 (very short after the Pista launch) has annoyed some Pista owners and they have feared that the F8 will push the Pista to a good extent. Visually, I like the F8 the best, although I also like the 488GTB and the Pista. So please don't hold it against me if I want to find out where the long-term price development of these vehicles, especialle the F8, is going/can go.
     
  6. RossoCorsa22

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    You're asking a very rational question about what is a very irrational purchase ;) I think it's safe to say that none of us, not even the guys with 20+ Ferraris in their collections and a luxury trackside suite at Monza, have a clue where resale values will be in a year, 5 years, 10 years, or 20 years. Because ultimately the exotic car business is not driven by rationality. Who would have thought that a 360 would sell for well north of $200K US, as just happened? Who could have predicted that in a time of global stress (covid etc), prices of luxury goods would skyrocket?

    You'll get 5 people on here telling you that the F8's value will drop sharply because it's got turbos. You'll get 5 more people telling you it will continue to appreciate because it's the last non-hybrid V8 Ferrari. You might as well throw a dart against the wall; you'd be just as likely to get an accurate answer.

    I'm on the hunt for a 488 Spider (at $600K USD+, the F8 Spider is out of my price range.) I've come to accept that the value will be, what the value will be. If the value of whatever car I get drops by $100K in the few years after I buy it...well, that's too bad. I'll just hold onto it and enjoy it. If it increases by $100K (or whatever) after I buy it...well I'm still going to hold onto it, unless circumstances mean I have to choose between keeping a Ferrari and keeping, say, my airplane. (Bye-bye Ferrari, in that case.) So really, the future price changes of the car are irrelevant. They're only relevant if I want/need to get out of Ferraris altogether.
     
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  7. BillHartman67

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    The F8 is PURE Combustion. No Battery or electric motors assisted.

    Turbos donl’t make it non-combustion. Only takes away “Natural Aspiration”
     
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  8. todd cloud

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    the last naturally aspirated pure combustion mid-engine Ferrari was the 458
     
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  9. todd cloud

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    Buying a Ferrari is not a logical undertaking
    Your clinical approach to the matter makes me sad
     
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  10. JTSE30

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    The F8 should hold value and increase over time. Why? The 'next' V8 is the SF90 and at more than double the asking price (coupes) that leaves a lot of 'headroom' for F8 values...And after the SF90, will there be another V8 standard production? Of course if there is, it too will be hybrid and priced even higher...
     
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    8.6 million people and there are 118 cars 488/F8/Pista for sale ? Too much competition. Demand and unique pushes price up. Look at the prices for a 458SA now.
     
  12. redcaruser

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    Interesting feedback from you all, thank you very much!

    The EU will probably decide that from 2035 no new cars with combustion engines may be sold. I think there will be another rally for combustion engines in general. I have also been looking for a McLaren for a long time. But I just can't get used to the design of the 720S. Although there are only 19 cars for sale in the 8.6 million Swiss population at the moment (sometimes there were around 30 cars on the market, now there are considerably less and yet the prices are still low), these cars are around CHF 100k below the F8 in the used car segment. That is already brutal. So the impression arises for me that the F8 already has a somewhat special position in the vast sea of super sports cars.

    A few weeks ago I drove a new MC20, is also included in my considerations. But this car seems at first glance, although it is beautiful to drive and the engine has a tremendous power delivery (although missing almost 100hp to the F8), to be at least one class lower. I think the MC20 will crash in price. There are already 7 of this car for sale, three of them new, price level is list price and lower. Although Maserati communicates very long delivery times.

    The comparison with the SF90 is very interesting! I heard yesterday from the dealer that the 296GTB is not very well received by the market. I can't judge that, but that would then also speak for the F8 again. You see, my thoughts are circling...
     
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    From what im seeing in our market the price of a used F8 spider is in line with a Pista coupe. IMO Pista all the way.
     
  14. Shorn355

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    FWIW I don't know what dealer you are talking to but my dealer FoD- as well as FMFL, Scottsdale Ferrari, etc. Say exactly the inverse- the excitement and "surprise" of the 296 is blowing the F8 out of the water. I own a 458 Spider and have driven 488s and F8s- while fantastic cars neither made me even remotely consider trading the 458 and neither tempted me to sell stock (or a kidney :cool:) to obtain one and add to the family- the 296 on the other hand still would not give me pause on trading the 458 BUT did have me asking if I really need two kidneys :cool::cool:

    Echoing @todd cloud - Dont over-analyze this- drive what you are interested in and when something makes your heart pound and all you can think about is the car then BUY IT if you can afford it and DRIVE IT every chance you get. None of these cars are retirement accounts and if they were then you get to stare at them and dust them once a week which is sad IMHO.

    Live the excitement and passion and save the analytics for something less exciting and more predictable.

    Cheers :cool:
     
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  15. redcaruser

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    Don't worry, I am already able to classify this topic, already own a Ferrari and a McLaren, this is not my first purchase of a toy.
    And yet for me the playground F8 is new. Ran into a dream F8 Tributo at an event yesterday and wanted to buy it right away and take it with me.
    And because this has all gone so quickly I would like to share the 10-20% "value development" as part of the total decision spectrum with you. So don't let me get on your nerves, I think this is just somehow part of it. In the end, the right color, the exhaust sound (I don't know yet which exhaust system the car has) and equipment is more important for me than the price development...
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  16. RCorsa

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    I have an F8 in production and am driving the 296 Tuesday evening at local event. Im sure it will be amazing based on what Ive seen and read but I'll likely keep the F8 for quite a while as the V8 thing is special I think and it looks amazing (best looking mid V8 in a long time IMO) --
     
  17. JTSE30

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    Ferrari is great at building excitement, but, if the 296 suffers from high out of warranty costs it will greatly impact its long term value. The SF90 has the privilege of being more or less a limited production car sold to top Ferrari customers who are more willing to put up with problems related to the hybrid components (some though are not so willing and sell them). Hopefully Ferrari will figure out the 296, but, it has been a year since its reveal, any customer deliveries yet??
     
  18. Chizz

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    I was told by my salesperson yesterday that if you put down a deposit on a 296 today that it will be 2-4 year wait.
     
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    Makes sense, probably another year+ before USA first delivery occurs, if first delivery is pushed back into 2024 you know they are having technical problems...
     
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    That was my first thought. I wouldn’t buy the first iteration of the 296 if they gave me discount.
     
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    Exactly what I was told during the test drive-
     
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  22. redcaruser

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    McLaren obviously has problems with the Artura as well. Perhaps the two have pushed themselves too much with their new products...

    I once read that the F8 was not actually planned and Ferrari only brought this model to bridge the time from the 488GTB to the 296GTB. When I look at the F8 now, this seems to be almost a stroke of luck. When the F8 appeared I was not at all a friend of this model. Somehow it stole the show from the Pista. Today I think I did the F8 an injustice. Today I think that the F8 will play a very happy role in the history of Ferrari. Who knows...
     
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  23. stretchgeneral

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    Isn't it an issue of the number produced? There many458's produced, fewer 488's and even fewer F8's with production cut short to pass to the 296. Subtract from that the ones that get totaled along the way and just that fact alone would say the F8 is in a good position to be of value.....20, 30, 40 years from now. Plus it was described as the ultimate "tribute" to the V8 legacy, then it should be a prized Ferrari in the years to come. I think the 458 will have a similar place from a collection perspective, as the last NA V8, but with many more produced playing a factor.
     
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    +1
     
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  25. mkraft3003

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    One correction, the F8 production was actually extended and not cut short. It was originally suppose to be a 2 year run and is now extended into 4 year run. It will end up being produced for the same amount of time as the 488. Since Ferrari has ramped up production over the last few years I would not be surprised if there ends up being more or about the same amount of F8 than the 488.
     

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