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F430 California smog check advice?

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  1. jcavalie

    jcavalie Formula Junior
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    My 2007 F430 F1 gearbox car is due for its first California smog check. Any advice? Any pre smog check driving procedures needed like with my past 1999 360, or will these cars' sensors be ready?

    Should I have the dealer, FoSV, do it, or can my local smog station handle it (they do my other cars)?

    Thanks in advance!
     
  2. plastique999

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    I don't see your car having any issues.
    Any smog station should be able to do it.
     
  3. mikeyr

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    the rumors I have heard is anything 2000 and after will pass easily, unlike my 1999 :)
     
  4. BenchBoy

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    The problem with smog test is it require a steady rpm at 2500 or higher for 60 sec., etc and with the electronic throttle we have in the car it will fail. Most of the smog center that have not done it don't know what to do, if you go to a regular smog center make sure to ask them if they have smog a Ferrari before.
     
  5. Skidkid

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    I have used 3 different places and all are basically a garage at a gas station. It isn't that difficult and they pass very easily if they are running correctly.

    Sorry BenchBoy, I can't agree with your thought. We haven't had any problem getting a steady RPM. If you are having problems with a stable RPM you probably have another issue with the car.
     
  6. Rifledriver

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    Electronic throttles are very common across the entire automotive spectrum.



    My experience simply does not match yours.
     
  7. netman

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    I believe the issue is related more to traction control since the front wheels are stationary while the back are spinning.
     
  8. Skidkid

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    ASR off or it doesn't work at all.
     
  9. Ferrari Now or Never

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    I had my newly-acquired 2005 F430 smogged late last year. I bought it from Fchatter "dodgeboy" in Michigan, so this was its first smog check.

    The car passed easily. I had to have it done twice (no additional charge) because the first time the technician entered the wrong VIN. Possibly because it was an out-of-state car, he had to enter the VIN manually and mistook an "A" for an "R".

    Two other things: It was a little tricky holding the required engine speed between 2250 and 2750 (I think) for 30 seconds. You would think this should be easy, but it isn't when your in neutral with no load on the engine. The other thing is that the technician did not do a dyno test like he has with my other cars. I asked him why and he said that he didn't want to risk damaging the car. I appreciated that but was surprised the high idle test was sufficient to pass. But it was and the car is now a California resident.

    By the way, I got a gem of a car from dodgeboy and I love driving it!
     
  10. FerrariDublin

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    Where I come from that would be tantamount to Asking for a fail! Just sayin' :)
     
  11. FerrariDublin

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    I'm not quite sure what this test is but maybe it's a brake test performed on rollers? There's a risk of damage to LSD on such rollers which might explain why he didn't to that test.
     
  12. Skidkid

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    Think rolling road or dyno. Not pulling for power just driving at a specific speed.
     
  13. MVDESQ

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    In CT not many new car dealers of any brand want to be bothered with the hassle of CT emissions tests. Thus, I had no choice but to go to a gas station. My wife took it to a local Gulf and they couldn't even get the car into their high bay (most cars go in). They sent my wife on her way. We called the local dealer in Greenwich and they advised the Shell station up the block from them does a lot of Ferraris. We took it there and the guy told my wife that these cars are a tad tricky and will fail if the technician is not familiar with them. She said he set up a lot of big fans in front of it too which he did not do for the 2 cars ahead of her. He got it to pass no problem. Cost is $20 no matter the CT location so next time we need one will go to him (plus his bay is flat).
     
  14. TheMayor

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    Just take it to any smog station. No biggie. They do this every day.

    Dealers don't do smog. They will just send it to someone for the test if they need to get one done.
     
  15. BenchBoy

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    Thanks Ferrari Now it was 30 second to hold to RPM, I just enjoy my car to much.
     
  16. yangstein

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    Ok. I should have read this thread beforehand. Since I am new in California, I didn't know. Went to the smog check and they were unable to read. Going back to do it again to run the engine around 3000 rpm for 30 seconds. Will see how it goes.
     
  17. MVDESQ

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    Are you kidding. That is not going to fix it. Read all the threads on getting these cars to pass emissions. There is a guy that put a PDF on here to get it ready. Just getting the monitors set and ready after a battery disconnect or computer reset is tricky. Also get a scanner for your phone to see if the car is emissions test ready before going in. Every fail shows up on carfax. Good luck.
     
  18. Skidkid

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    MVDESQ's suggestions are good except that the 360 will pass easily. A 99 is the only challenge and that is because it can't set all of the monitors unless you have the ECU reflashed by Ferrari.

    If the machine can't read the port you need Campaign 148 (attached). Ferrari didn't ground a pin in the OBD so the machine can't read it. Simple fix to do yourself and only something like $148 at the dealer. Probably very little at an indi.
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  19. MVDESQ

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    Got my 2005 430 spider emission tested in CT on Friday morning. Pre tested it at home. Said it was ready. Drove over the long way with 1/2 tank of gas and it passed with flying colors. Good until June 2018.


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  20. yangstein

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    I have to talk to my mechanic regarding this. I am sure he will figure it out for me. It didn't fail where they just couldn't read.
     
  21. F430Rod

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    You have an F430? All they do is plug it in and so long as you don't have a check engine light on issue or anything it should pass. I took mine to Newport Smog. It's on Bristol in Costa Mesa.
     
  22. clex2

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    Just had my out of state 2006 spider smogged here in CA. No rollers. Visual and OBD II check. Easy.
     
  23. Skidkid

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    As pointed out earlier the monitors have to be set, not just no CEL. Any OBD reader can tell you if the monitors are all set. But yes, they easily pass the emissions levels unless something is very wrong.

    Good point, in CA there are different rules in different areas. In the metro areas you have a rolling road test.
     
  24. yangstein

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    SMOG test center was in Yorba Linda and they told me to talk to my mechanic. That means they know Ferrari's are different. I talked to my mechanic and he said it is simple and he will do it. I have other things to do with my mechanic anyway... Change front tires, changing to fabspeed sports headers and others... Thanks for your help.. There is no CEL issue. OBD can't read...

    Thanks for your help... I just made 20,000 Miles on my car on Sunday and will post it.. Car is rock solid and I am exptremely happy.

    Again, thank you guys for helping me out.
     
  25. MVDESQ

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    I never thought there was a CEL it is just that a lack of CEL does not guarantee a pass. What do you mean "OBD can't read"? Do you mean it cannot do the test as the car is not ready because all the monitors are not set?

    Do your research here and outside (your mechanic, etc.) about aftermarket headers. Some people say they don't contain the precats like the factory headers and as such can cause CEL and emissions passing issues in some jurisdictions. I've read a few posts of people having those issues with aftermarket headers. Ferrari didn't put the precats in for their health, they were sort of forced into it.
     

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