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F40 on Fire in Monaco

Discussion in '288GTO/F40/F50/Enzo/LaFerrari' started by ChipG, Feb 18, 2020.

  1. WJHMH

    WJHMH Two Time F1 World Champ
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    It will be rebuilt, time & money can fix almost everything.
     
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  2. Rifledriver

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    They drove a new car under the radiator cap.
     
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  3. Sfumato

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    Time for nice LM rep. Classiche will certify anything.
     
  4. Rifledriver

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    You'd have to contract them to build it and you know what that would cost. They'd sub it to Michelotto and triple it.
     
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  5. PAUL500

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    There are about 5 now I am aware of in a similar state that have yet to resurface, I know a few have emerged phoenix like in the past from similar remains, but the parts are getting very hard to find now to do a complete ground up build, the factory seem to be able to do such with F50 and Enzo but I do wonder if their stocks of F40 parts allow them to do the same these days. Panels are straight forward to source as they have been remanufactured, its the little bits and bobs that are illusive.
     
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  6. Rifledriver

    Rifledriver Two Time F1 World Champ

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    I know of an F50 the factory had to have new panels made for. I suspect the same would be true for a great many pieces for that F40. Yes it can be resurrected but at what cost? It would be seriously expensive. Not to mention heat alone has wrecked many parts the fire never touched. A BB I was involved with many years ago burned. The transaxle was mostly OK but when we robbed it of some gears they failed hardness testing.
     
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  7. ross

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    well its a given that this car will never be going to a concourse.
    which means that if you can get the panels, in original format, everything else can be cobbled together pretty well such that it runs.
    and if you make some kind of track capable car out of it, then all the more license to be 'creative' with the rebuild for 'safety' and 'performance' reasons.....

    look what those butchers at Gas Monkey Garage did to that unfortunate example.....and it regularly changes hands for $700k or so.

    this thing has another life to live....like frankenstein :)
     
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  8. 3604u

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    Anyone knows who insured the car or the owner .
    Would be a good “buy”
     
  9. 134282

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    The important difference there is that Ferrari still Enzo materials laying around the factory, so they just built another one and gave it the old VIN.

    LOL! I missed you guys.
     
  10. joe sackey

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    If there was a claim for $1.5m, I think the insurance company would look into the car's maintenance or lack thereof.

    This is an important issue.

    Exactly.

    There is a reason it is valued at half that of many F40s.
     
  11. ross

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    yup, thats exactly my point......$700k aint zero now is it?
     
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    Sure.
     
  13. willcrook

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    was it being driven in Monaco a factor (always at low speeds so overheating?) ?

    Monaco isn't as nice of a place to live in as it used to be imo, too many car spotters absolutely everywhere and not enough peace which was something the anti-paparazi laws brought about traditionally.
     
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  14. Marcel Massini

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    Thanks to iphone and Instagram etc., everybody is now a Paparazzo.
    The world has changed, nowadays everybody becomes a star instantly, Andy Warhol would be proud......

    Marcel Massini
     
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  15. Rifledriver

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    F40 is capable of driving around town just fine.
     
  16. ttforcefed

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    sorry if i missed it but was this a cat car and is leaving the cats in foolish?
     
  17. Ron328

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    I'd like to think that owners of these cars would know this, protect their priced possession, and that money would be no object.
     
  18. Rifledriver

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    Not in my opinion. Just keep the warning system functional.
     
  19. Crush301

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    As an X Paid Driver and current Ferrari owner maybe this falls under the category of “ **** Happens “. In 1988 as a test driver for team Kraco I hit the wall at the exit of turn 2 at Indy in the area of 212 mph. You could say it was poor maintenance, you could say it was tires, you could say it was driver. But it was a $22.00 link that broke on my Kraco test mule. So “ **** Happens “ with some broken bones and back. How about we mourn the loss of an crazy ass car that I remember smoking a Porsche 959 in Orange County on Hwy 73 when they just finished the road. The F40 pulled like a train all the way to 190mph steady like a rock with the 959 in my rear view mirror way behind.
     
  20. john a barnes

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    I hope they get the Carbon weave just right after a rebuild.
     
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    Wow, did you just name-drop someone you don't actually know and have never actually met? That's a first!
     
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  22. Barnyb

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    The car was a common sight in Monaco.
    It was blowing a lot of smoke out the exhaust last summer. Is this common for F40's or maybe a sign of poor care and maintenance?
     
  23. George330

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    If it was black smoke it is probably a sign of the turbos needing a rebuild...could be the reason this car caught fire.


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  24. luigisayshello

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    If the people doing the rebuilt are fabricators too, and they have a proper f40 to model, there is very little that will be hard to not create or recreate, in my opinion out of everything the lights are the worst ones to make new.
    I personally think these phoenix projects are a bit of a waste to try to put 100% oem. Many cool innovations and materials that would mantain the soul and appearence of the car stock but just make it an even better experience.

    I.e. undescriminated use of lightweight alloys in place of the traditional steel, use of actual carbon fiber instead of reinforced fiberglass, improve on the tubular chassis with better alloys or try to improve on the design, like an lm tubular chassis. Just let an engineer go wild with a strict brief on the personality and visuals of the car. Sub 100kg f40, making 600hp with the same asthetics and oem to the naked eye as well as a similar personality and driveability experience. Hell of a car to own and what a fun experience it would be to build it.
     
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